24H2 and Hyper-V

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  1. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    Hi,
    I've a strange issue with my Surface Laptop Studio with 24H2 and all Hyper-V related stuff.

    When I install Hyper-V, Windows Sandbox and WSL (WSA working with no issues), my PC is a little bit slowed down.
    If I don't run any of the previously mentioned components, there aren't any other issue.

    WHEN I RUN ONE OF THE HYPER-V COMPONENT:
    The startup (not the boot) of the virtual machine is extremely slow, with about 5 minutes of delay before start to booting; I noticed that seems the VM waits for the creation of the vEthernet interface and its auto-configuration. During this wait I've also noticed that every RDP connection to other PC will fail.
    When I shutdown the host machine (with fast startup enabled), the PC seems off, but the fan is still active (for about 5 minutes) and I can't turn on the PC until it's completely off. When I turn on the PC, after Windows Hello Facial Recognition, I have about a 50% chance that there is no Desktop for about 5 minutes, only a dark grey screen. I can press Ctrl+Shift+Esc for the Task Manager and see that Explorer is already running.
    Instead, if I reboot the PC I have to wait about 5 minutes of the animation post-logoff. When the PC start again, it's only a little bit slowed down.

    If I disable all the Hyper-V stuff (like in this moment) the PC is perfect.

    With 23H2 everything was working perfectly. After the update I noticed all this issues. So I clean installed 24H2, but nothing changes.

    In the Desktop PC in the office with 24H2 and almost the same configuration, there is no issue with Hyper-V stuff.

    Any idea?
     
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  2. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    Vbs protection ?
     
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  3. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    I thought about it too, but even after disabling the flags in Windows Defender, the issues persist...
     
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  4. naxal

    naxal MDL Member

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    Hello,

    Just asking, did you try with just Hyper-V?

    Disable Windows Sandbox / WSL.

    Just install Hyper-V with a clean installation of Win11 24H2 and in case you have multiple VMs, ensure to provide enough gap, like 15/20sec for each VMs start up on boot.

    Secondly, which type of vEthernet are you using for that virtual switch?

    Thanks.
     
  5. alessio89g

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    I've also tried with single components enabled, but the issue is always still there... the vEthernet is the default virtual switch.
     
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  6. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    On the Surface, the virtualization can't be disabled by the BIOS.
    Thanks, I'll check this during the weekend.
    In the meantime, I noticed that if I plug my 10Gbit Ethernet Thunderbolt NIC before power-on the laptop, I experience the 5 minutes of dark grey screen (for now Hyper-V and its other related stuff are not installed).
    If I plug the Thunderbolt NIC after the Desktop is available, I've no issue, but Windows Security shows only a blank page for about 5 minutes...
    I'm starting to think it's a firmware issue or something like that...
     
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  7. atgpud2003

    atgpud2003 MDL Addicted

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    Make sure you have enough CPU cores and also, Memory RAM is most key are hungry ram! Just word advice..

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  8. alessio89g

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  9. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    Buggy driver ? From surface ?
     
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  10. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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  11. sonic9

    sonic9 MDL Member

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    if msinfo32.exe report VBS protection enabled then hyper-v is active.
     
  12. atgpud2003

    atgpud2003 MDL Addicted

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    Try change to Private Network see that works?? have you try it?

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  13. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    It is already set to private network...
     
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  14. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    I can confirm that the problem is not directly related to Hyper-V, but to whenever the system detects a new NIC at logon, whether physical or virtual.
     
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  15. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    It surely is not "new" at next boot, so what you suggesting could be true once only
     
  16. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    I found the issue. The presence of the Marvell AQC113 driver triggers everything.
    If I uninstall my Thunderbolt 10GbE NIC, all the issues are gone.
    I tried all the versions of the driver, and the issue persists with all of them.
    I hope that Microsoft or Marvell fixes this issue.
     
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  17. alessio89g

    alessio89g MDL Member

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    "New" in the meaning of just plugged in.
     
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