For the First: Yes, it work. But i don't understand what file you rename to .dat. If is the compiled/build file like thinapp style not work, the linked file say "unable to find test.exe". It search the extension, so it not find ( in my case is test.dat ) If you can you need to improove this, like Test.dat ---> Big file created from SpoonStudio, simply renamed from .exe Test.exe ---> The shotcut created whit ExeBuilder, reference to Test.dat For the second: I use @APPDATA@\Sandbox when i build file, it create sandbox in the same directory of the .exe, everywhere. Thanks for answer. John
Working Great! Thanks, now Spoon Studio has nothing to envy ThinApp Satisfy my curiosity. Why use the file .msi? If is only for the file association is not it better to use a .reg file which adds / removes the association? For example I can use AutoIt or CMD or FileTypeMan.
The msi registers extensions better than a reg file (because you have to modify the reg file when you want to install the application in a different folder). It is used also to copy the main file to Program Files folder and to create shortcuts + it's easy to uninstall + it's smaller in size than the application itself (about 2 times usually) so it's easier to deploy. And, since it's "built" in Spoon Studio, it's easy to create. Of course, it's not a 100% efficient way - other ways can be found (like Inno or AutoIT for instance). But with third party programs you have to work hard to make a good installer. I guess when you want something simple you can use the virtualized application directly without an installer.
Sorry for the double post. I have made some small improvements to remset and updated the first post...
Hi a_catalin, I have some trouble with Office 2010 Professional Plus x86 and Spoon Studio. I have create a ISO with two languages ( Language Pack ) and the slipstream SP1. I have a MAK key for Office, i'll do the phone activation. The virtual Studio is a Windows 7 x64 SP1 in VirtualBox. My real PC is a Windows 7 x64 SP1. The problem is: 1) The portable version start only on Windows 7 x64 SP1 (VirtualBox) with Office INSTALLED! So: Office is Installed - Portable Version - Windows VirtualBox --> Application Start Office ISN'T Installed - Portable Version - Windows VirtualBox --> Application don't start Office ISN'T Installed - Portable Version - Real Windows --> Application don't start The error is: "Microsoft Office: impossible to verify the license. The software will be close" 2) I can't use the default template of Spoon studio, don't recognise the DvD. I Don't know why... 3) I'll try to uncheck the "Quick Snapshot" in Spoon but nothing changes Can you explain your procedure for the portable version of Office? Thanks.
Hi catalin, it is absurd that a program that prides itself virtualize Office 2010 is based on an outside activity, and against the principles of portable applications. The method works, it is true, but Spoon has never published a guide that explains exactly what to do. The site says: Virtual Application Studio 2011 includes support for virtualizing 64-bit applications and the .NET 4.0 Framework, as well as dozens of new application templates including Microsoft Office 2010, Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, and 9, Mozilla Firefox... So that means the program should have no problem, but in addition to activation, excel does't start (xellex.dll not found), Publisher don 't have templates (ptxt9.dll not found), InfoPath Filler & Designer does't start and no error appears. Clearly the .dll are included in the project So four fundamental programs of the suite have problems? Unfortunately there is no support forum, it seems that the world we are interested Spoon just you and me Anyway I sent an email to the support for a comprehensive procedure for the installation of Office 2010. Best Regards, John
Well, I don't like it either, but: 1. They don't say specifically that Spoon Studio can be used to make portable applications, like those who make Thinapp don't say it either; but we use them to make portable applications anyway 2. The problem with the license/activation is 100% Microsoft's fault (but you can understand why they implemented it: because of the piracy). When you activate Office 2010 virtualized on a computer and you go with that Office on another computer you have to activate it again... No virtualization program managed to solve this problem and I don't think it will solve it 100% in the future... PS: I sent to each of you a PM...
Catalin, Thanks for msi. There are my first consideration about your pm: 1) There are new type of template for Office 2010, and 3 different languages. They work different of the previus version. They import the INSTALLED version of Office from the HOST in a virtual way. Works? Not for me. Don't find the installed version of Office on host machine ( maybe is my language is different? ) 2) Snapshotting is more slowly on W7 and seems working different, maybe more accuracy? 3) Sometimes seems application "freeze". But it was also in the previous version 4) I'll test it with Office Professional Plus ( Ony Excel for test .dll error ), same method of "Capture" ecc.., i don't find different option. And the result is: a) LICENSE: Application don't start b) DLL ERROR: xellex.dll Other Option: Optimize startup:yes ( works for all Office product ) Compress:no Sandbox: same directory Delete sandbox shotdown:no So nothing new, I'd like to see how the template works.
They sent me an email saying that they have opened a JIRA Account (???) I don't know what is it, I specified on the form of the site to have an evaluation version of Spoon The site is: https:// support.spoon.net ( without space ) The details of issues is: Type: Bug Status: Open Priority: 2-Must Fix Resolution: Unresolved Affects Version/s: None Fix Version/s: None Component/s: None Security Level: Default Security Level Labels: None Assignee: Robert Anderson. Reporter: johnmcloud Dates Created:August 28 - 6:00 PM
support.spoon.net/browse/INBX-12265?focusedCommentId=126886&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-126886 Catalin, the status now is "Resolved", but they have not solved anything This is the answer: But they read my message? I have repeated it again:
One Problem SOLVED! Catalin, i have resolved the first problem, the .dll error: Office x64 Virtualized DON'WORK on Windows 7 x64! Office x86 Virtualized DON'WORK on Windows 7 x64! The only working TEST BUILD is Windows XP SP3 x86 and OFFICE x86 Now for the second problem: I'll test to virtualize separately the licence and set an entry point to the .exe that verify the licence ( Spoon doesn't did it ) And, The Spoon support is useless....
They said that "Office x86 Virtualized DON'WORK on Windows 7 x64!"? Strange, maybe only with Spoon Studio, because with Thinapp works...
That would be the most idiotic to have one of the most popular apps (no matter if one likes it or not) on most popular OS (just about all new machines come with x64 Win7) NOT working sebus
Guys, The Virtualized Office works in Windows 7 x64/86 (works...with the license error) but you need to capture in a Windows XP SP3 x86. The capture on Windows XP generates only the license error, while the catch on Windows 7 also generates errors .dll (see post above) You can "use" the capture from Windows Xp --> Windows 7 This are all my test, I'm still waiting for a serious response from the spoon support, I opened a new issue. I do not want him to lose time, but do not want to miss it either. If you can not virtualize completely Office 2010 say so clearly, and take away the misleading advertising from the website: Virtual Application Studio 2011 includes support for virtualizing 64-bit applications and the .NET 4.0 Framework, as well as dozens of new application templates including Microsoft Office 2010, Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, and 9, Mozilla Firefox...