A few questions

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by ynhdarkman, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    well, i'm about to get a Win7 Pro license (student offer) and i'm not sure about some things:

    1. Seems like i'm getting the Upgrade version, if i download the Pro x64 ISO somewhere else and use the key i'll get, will i be ok?

    2. I'm not american, so i'll get a non-american license, if i download the english ISO, will the same key work without problems? And will I be able to change the language if i want to?

    3. If i do the downgrade trick (I'm on Ultimate x64 using Daz's, passed validation fully), will everything be stable? I mean drivers, apps, etc.? Or should i do a clean install instead?

    Been looking on google all of these, and i've read mixed results, so i'm asking if someone here can answer...

    Thanks in advance :eek:
     
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  2. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    What type of key are you buying? OEM? Retail? If Retail then it should not matter if you download another ISO from somewhere but you can always check that in a VM if you want to. You should be ok with an English version even though it is not an american license. I would also do a clean install because doing it the other way can create potential problems.
     
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  3. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    AFAIK, it is indeed a retail key, i'll get it from digitalriver
     
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  4. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    How many activations does it have? If it has quite a bit like a MSDN key you can always check it by installing the copy of windows 7 that you want to install in a VM program like VMware or Virtual Box and activate it with the key and see if it works. If it does then you can reinstall it the normal way and activate again but remember that if you activate it in a VM that takes up one activation count so only do that if you have a lot of activations. I don't normally do this but if you need I can give you 1 activation for Pro from my MSDN retail key if this does not work for you. :)
     
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  5. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    Seems like it's a single activation key, so i'll have one try and i'll deal with MS if i can't validate o_O

    Guess i'll be ok if i do a clean install using the ISO provided with the key...

    Thanks for the help btw
     
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  6. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    Your welcome dude. BTW most retail keys have several activations. It should tell you where you are buying it from but I know that MSDN retail keys are 10 Online and 25 Phone activations so I would guess that regular retail is pretty similar but I would check out from the source that you are buying it from.
     
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  7. blackranger

    blackranger MDL Senior Member

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    You are a student??

    Seems that only some schools(high schools / universities)' students could have free license of Win7.... :)
     
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  8. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    Yes I am
    I'm only eligible for a discount though
     
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  9. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    In the US I got xp pro and vista business for free at school. I guess it's different for where he lives.

    @ynhdarkman
    Maybe just save money and get RTM and use loader dude
     
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  10. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    LOL
    Already am ;)
    I'm getting the key "just in case"
     
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  11. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    #11 ynhdarkman, Feb 21, 2010
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    Already got the license and burned the official DR ISO...

    "Officially, Windows 7 Upgrade DVD product key can only be used when the previous qualifying Windows operating system of Windows Vista or Windows XP is currently installed on the hard drive, regardless of activation status. It means that end-user will have to be either running the Windows 7 upgrade from within the operating system or by restarting the computer, booting with the Upgrade DVD and selecting the Custom Install option with existing operating system intact."

    So that means I can start the setup process within the current Ultimate install and then choose Custom Install, delete Windows partition and clean install without having the "The Product Key Is Not Valid Or 0xC004F061 Activation Error"?

    I know there's workarounds to do a clean install (http://www.mydigitallife.net/2009/1...t-key-on-formatted-or-empty-blank-hard-drive/), but the method I asked for above seems to be the easiest way... If it's not possible, which of the 3 described workarounds is the best?

    Thanks again
     
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  12. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    dude, it might take awhile but I would install win7 Home Premium or Home Basic. Then use your upgrade disk to upgrade it to Pro. That way you do not have to worry about registry hacks that may transfer over when you upgrade.
     
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  13. WinFLP

    WinFLP MDL Senior Member

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    #13 WinFLP, Feb 21, 2010
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    Once you do get it installed on your machine, you can backup token.dat using paymyrent's tool.

    If you try to do an upgrade from within Windows7 using the DVD it will tell you to use the "Windows Anytime Upgrade" Functionality.

    I would try in the order: 1, 3, 2. There's minimal harm in method 1 and 3. During installation decline to enter the key.
    3 can be simplified: Open an admin command prompt, and type:
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    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\OOBE" /v MediaBootInstall /t reg_dword /d 0x0 /f
    I would be curious what it's looking for when it looks for a qualifying installation. Eg: If copying over a WindowsXP windows folder (taken from anywhere) onto a random partition would count, or even if it's looking for a specific file (sometimes it's just Winver.exe for previous version upgrades).

    I would be curious if you could install Home Premium off a fresh install, and just enter your professional upgrade key in Anytime Upgrade.
     
  14. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    #14 ynhdarkman, Feb 21, 2010
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    So, boot from the DVD and clean install all the way then?
     
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  15. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    #15 sam3971, Feb 22, 2010
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    What I would actually do is install Home Premium, then use your retail key for Professional in windows anytime upgrade. Once the upgrade is complete install your personal pro license key if it not already activated with your key. That would probably be the safest/best/quickest way to do it without messing anything up dude.
     
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  16. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    @WinFLP Yes you can use a retail key like that in windows anytime upgrade. I have just confirmed that with my MSDN retail key for Ultimate. Nice suggestion btw. :)
     
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  17. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    Well then, can I get a bootable USB to install and an Easy Transfer file in the same USB drive without having conflicts while booting? Doesn't matter if I have to do the Easy Transfer manually after install... I don't wanna run out of blank DVDs :D
     
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  18. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

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    Yes. No conflicts, I do that myself works good.
     
  19. ynhdarkman

    ynhdarkman MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the quick answer
     
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  20. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    agreed, no issues here either just clean crisp upgrades. BTW I have personally tested "Windows Anytime Upgrade" on every version of win7 so I can test my AIO activation kit and every one worked with flying colors.
     
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