A permanent activator?

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by lolcocks, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. lolcocks

    lolcocks MDL Novice

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    Sorry if this is in the wrong section.

    Is there a way I can permanently activate Windows 10?

    I am the tech guy amongst a lot of people.
    Everyone contacts me for technical assistance.

    Problem is, most KMS activators work only for 6 months, so these people keep calling me again and again.

    Is there a trustworthy way to activate Windows permanently?
     
  2. Krakatoa

    Krakatoa MDL Senior Member

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    yes, but not supported on mdl
     
  3. urie

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  4. kgtuning

    kgtuning MDL Junior Member

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    If you use KMS_VL_ALL and it will rerun on its own so the 180 day thing shouldn’t be an issue. Or search online for a HWID solution.
     
  5. urie

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    @kgtuning , Tech Guys should only be advising on proper legal activation.
     
  6. kgtuning

    kgtuning MDL Junior Member

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    I completely agree but I figured he can make that decision. But I do agree with you 100%.
     
  7. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    The only legal activation would be upgrading or buying but activated once people are happy so they don't care which way it comes to them I believe ;)
     
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  8. Micro

    Micro MDL Junior Member

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    Any legit W7, W8 or W8.1 key will still activate Windows 10 as an upgrade.
    I just did 3 this past weekend.
    No real excuses for other nefarious methods ;)
     
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  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #9 Enthousiast, Jun 19, 2019
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    HWID doesn't need any key, most don't have old keys laying around, full upgrade or the gatherosstate.exe shortcut will provide a legit hwid for anyone
     
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  10. Micro

    Micro MDL Junior Member

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    #10 Micro, Jun 19, 2019
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    Just a matter of semantics.
    Yes, that works.
    But using a W7-8.1 key you can easily purchase for $2-$5 is guaranteed legal, that way, not so much.
     
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  11. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Wrong, full upgrade or the gatherosstate.exe shortcut are guaranteed legal, pretty much.
     
  12. urie

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    Were talking Legal $2-$5 key not Legal same as other method uses modified files.
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It's just bs that it exists but is not allowed to be mentioned and send people to buy stolen/illegally obtained keys.
     
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  14. Krakatoa

    Krakatoa MDL Senior Member

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    #14 Krakatoa, Jun 19, 2019
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    Why is on MDL kms supported but hwid but not supported?
    Both are linked to windows exe, kms (SppExtComObjHook.dll) on SppExtComObj.exe (SppExtComObjHook.dll instead of SppExtComObj.exe), hwid (slc.dll) on gatherosstate.exe (slc.dll instead of sytem slc.dll). Both generate values, kms activation string, hwid that is win activated for gatherosstate.exe.
    1. Win 7/8.1/10 (ilegal (without license) daz loader or slic or etc) > GenuineTicket.xml (gatherosstate.exe) > upgrade > Win 10 (GenuineTicket.xml, DL)
    2. GenuineTicket.xml (gatherosstate.exe, slc.dll) (GenuineTicket.xml (1) = GenuineTicket.xml (2)) > Win 10 (GenuineTicket.xml, DL)
    I see nothing wrong with HWID if there is nothing wrong with KMS and other procedures.
    Full hwid principle:
    Normal:
    gatherosstate.exe > slc.dll (system) > what is the license and activation status? > really > DL only for retail (not vl) and activated
    hwid:
    gatherosstate.exe > slc.dll (enclosed) > what is the license and activation status? > retail and activated > DL always
    What's wrong on HWID for MDL?
     
  15. lolcocks

    lolcocks MDL Novice

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    Yes, I know I should be recommending them purchase of original licenses, which I do if they are computers being used in a business.

    But for personal laptops and home users, I cannot tell them to purchase original Windows, especially in a third world country like mine where $130 is quite a lot of money. Absolutely none of the home users are going to pay it.
    It's to the point where laptop OEMs like Dell, Lenovo and others will ask you in the stores if we want original or pirated Windows to save the extra cost and will go a step further to provide provide the pirate versions themselves.



    Thanks! Considering that the HWID method uses 'gatherosstate.exe', would you say this is a "pretty much" legal method? I ask because the HWID method doesn't involve doing an upgrade from 7 or 8.
     
  16. Yen

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    #16 Yen, Jun 20, 2019
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    To get a valid statement on this you would have to email Microsoft and ask them. Nobody here is able to do. All the replies on this would be a personal assessment.

    This isn't subject of the topic.
    We made a decision, an assessment, what we support here and what not.
    It's no problem to get support elsewhere.

    HWID is not about right or wrong. Here is no place for discussion because it's not here.
    We, MDL, drew the line at using enclosed slc.dll and because here are already enough other ways posted.
    MDL forums are running since 2007. It is good that not anything is here and other forums have their ways.

    Back to topic....
     
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  17. Feniksrising

    Feniksrising MDL Member

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    Doesn't work for LTSC.
     
  18. PsychedelicShaman

    PsychedelicShaman MDL Member

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    You have to use a proper KMS solution with auto-renewal, such as KMS_VL_ALL by @abbodi1406 which is the best KMS activation script imho, also the SECO Injector, which KMS_VL_ALL uses is fully Open Source, so that's another bonus (transparency). :)
     
  19. ohenry

    ohenry MDL Novice

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    For LTSC, I like to use KMS38. 19 years of activation, and I doubt anyone will still be using Windows 10 LTSC in 2038.
     
  20. zylor

    zylor MDL Junior Member

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    KissKMS is also a good option! Activated Windows and Office 2016 with it without any issue (on Android) :)