Advice on new laptops before I purchase

Discussion in 'Mobile and Portable' started by adrian2055, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. adrian2055

    adrian2055 MDL Member

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  2. kaljukass

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    1. 1.8GHz - you will die before the three times when your computer starts to do something. It is so slow! This is the story of the last century. 3.7 - 4.1 is the minimum.
    2 16GB of RAM - Do You know, that Windows has a 4GB RAM limitation, if you do not use PAE (physical address extension)? You can add so much RAM how much You want, but Windows will never use it. Even if You have 4GB is used normally about 60-75%, very rarely more, but never more than 4GB.
     
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  3. Joe C

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    Get something with an i5 around 3 ghz and 8gb ram, a decent video card (Nvidia 980?) and you'll be good to go.
    Not sure if you can get a 980 mobile in a laptop, you'll need to research that
     
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  4. Joe C

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  5. adrian2055

    adrian2055 MDL Member

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    #5 adrian2055, Aug 1, 2016
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    @Joe C That laptop would be perfect if It was a 17" screen. Do I have to pay $1,000 for a decent laptop nowadays?

    @kaljukass So what you're saying is 16GB ram is pointless?
     
  6. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    AMD chips are cheap, and for a reason, they haven't done anything since 2011, but either this winter or early next year AMD is coming out with a new ZEN CPU that looks like it can compete with the Intel i7 ...but it's mostly speculation as of today. Getting a laptop with an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU will give you the best performance but it'll cost.
    You can check Newegg for something that will fit your need/budget, Either Newegg or Amazon will get you your best price
     
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  7. kaljukass

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    Of course not, but by using default settings of Windows will not work. Find out for yourself what is the PAE and how to set work up to 64GB of RAM.
    This is entirely possible. But usually with such a settings computers not sold. They only write, that there is so much RAM, but works only less than 4GB. This is the busines, where most important is money, not brain.
     
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  8. Hadron-Curious

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    For video editing that system would pretty bore you out. My suggestion is to get something with descent CPU size because in video-editing work any of the applications uses much of your CPU to speed up the process.
     
  9. Bat.1

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    Afraid to say it but Yes You're looking at a minimum of $1000.00 to $1200.00 for a Decent laptop. Now that's the regular price so after You decide on a couple of models that'd suit Your needs, it's a impatient wait on one of them to go on sale at Newegg or Amazon. ;) 8GB of RAM is what I'd suggest as the minimum and unless You're running a custom built with the highest performing i7 CPU available, prolly all you'll ever need.

    Also consider that Laptop internal Blu-Ray burners are Expensive so You might want to look for a model that has one already, or consider running an external drive instead. Kaljukass must be thinking about the RAM limits on a 32 bit OS cause I regularly exceed 4GB RAM usage on My desktops, sometimes I'm nearing the 16GB installed. To get usage anywhere near the 8GB of RAM installed in My laptop, I'd really have to work at it, The i5 3210m and NVidia 635 just aren't capable of running anything that could use that much RAM.
     
  10. John Sutherland

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    #10 John Sutherland, Aug 1, 2016
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    Hello @ adrian2055 - I see one area where you might run into problems, and that's being able to install and run Windows 7 on brand new hardware. The real issue here is hardware drivers.

    Manufacturers like HP and Lenovo are pretty good when it comes to writing new drivers to make the older hardware on Windows 7 machines work with a newer OS like Windows 8.1 or 10. Where they're lacking is writing drivers to make brand new Windows 10 machines and their newer hardware backwards compatible with Windows 7. I ran into this problem myself trying to help a friend install Windows 7 on a two year old HP laptop that originally came with Windows 8 and was upgraded to 8.1. We found all of the drivers he needed except for two, one for the fingerprint scanner and the other for the webcam. That was the deal breaker for him, and we ended up putting Windows 8.1 back on the machine.
     
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  11. QuantumBug

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    Madre de dios, do not buy HP please. Good drivers but terrible hardware, whitelists and BIOS.

    Was a major letdown when I could not update my $2500 machine's GPU or choose my own wireless card.
     
  12. bpwnes

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    If you don't care how heavy it is, I would suggest looking for a refurbished workstation laptop. They are generally very powerful, high resolution, high capacity, and go for a good price when they are refurbished. I sold a man a refurb that had the same specs, just one generation older than the new one he was looking at, and he paid about $800 USD (after SSD and RAM upgrades) vs the $2700 he was looking at for a new model.
     
  13. adrian2055

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    #13 adrian2055, Aug 2, 2016
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    Thanks to everyone who contributed. After reading through everyone's advice and visiting a few stores in my area I see that I'm gonna have to pay at least $1,000 for a laptop so I'm gonna change things up a bit. No blu-ray burner (not paying $150 for that) and I'm gonna look for a high powered desktop instead. I prefer laptops, but If I gotta pay a lot of money I need this computer to be a beast and maybe I can get one cheaper that $1,000. So the majority seems to say nvidia graphics (my favorite) and an intel processor. I will keep that in mind. Does intel make a processor with more than 4 cores and 4 threads? I really want a fast computer.


    @John Sutherland: I will keep that in mind. Windows 10 is a pain in the ass and I end up using other programs to delete the crap from it, but I may have to get used to it. This is what I get for using windows vista since 2007. Everything looks/feel so wrong now LOL!
     
  14. QuantumBug

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    adrian,

    I think you're making a good choice there, but don't forget to account times you'll need to work with your computer out of the house :)
    But in general you will get more form a desktop machine.

    If you need help with parts, MDL is good with that too :D

    Regards, QB.
     
  15. RJARRRPCGP

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    64-bit Windows doesn't have a 4 GB limit...

    And I seen browsers choke with less than 5 GB of RAM. :(
     
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  16. Joe C

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    #18 Joe C, Aug 23, 2016
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  17. adrian2055

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    @Joe C: thanks!
     
  18. LatinMcG

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    go with 760 or 960 key is the last 2 digits in nvidia .. 950 is ok but 60 is better and 70 even better.