Another step to full control!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by CHEF-KOCH, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. CHEF-KOCH

    CHEF-KOCH MDL Addicted

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    #1 CHEF-KOCH, Jan 27, 2017
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    Google doesn't need NSA anymore to collect data, they are now their own Root-CA. The title is ridiculous 'The foundation of a more secure web'. This shows you truly can buy everything with money.

    What does it mean?
    * If you're against Google they block your entire Domain or blacklist them secretly. It can ruin your entire bushiness.
    * Even if you use DANE TLSA, this still means that your clients need to check it and your resolver needs to support this, which means you need to work with them if you want or not.


    This is the worst thing to the internet what could happened. Since Google already use very strong encryption it's almost impossible too look behind or make an audit to reveal if they really doing what they promise 'securing the web' [btw. from what? cyber terrorism?].


    I already tried to block their certs, impossible because not even google works then. :rolleyes:

    Source:
    * https://security.googleblog.com/2017/01/the-foundation-of-more-secure-web.html
    * http://www.golem.de/news/certificat...fikaten-wird-fast-unmoeglich-1610-124024.html
    * http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/why-the-ftc-thinks-google-is-abusing-its-power.html/?a=viewall
    * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2007-04-08/is-google-too-powerful
     
  2. JFKI

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    <-- disagrees. The worst thing was when we ( The USA ) gave up control of ICANN on 1 October 2016. :yes:
     
  3. melted

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  4. JFKI

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    <-- wishes it were that "easy".

    Try

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    ( Google "5 eyes" )
     
  5. melted

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    @JFKI: I know, was just trying to have a laugh about it. Thank you though.

    Google started bringing fiber to customers in 2010 and is going to keep expanding.
    Isn't this http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/30/tech/...acex-oneweb-satellite-drone-balloon-internet/ wonderful?
    "Welcome to planet Earth, a Google corporation" :p

    I've also heard that "they" are supposedly planning on putting up small satellites:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_satellite#Picosatellites
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CubeSat

    In a form similar or on par with those. What's different about them?
    They plan to move them around and get them close to other sats that they are interested in,
    then find out as much as they can about them. Then ultimately I guess they can decide if they
    want to capture all of the data up link/down link from them.

    Maybe encrypted Ham radio and mesh networking is the answer?
    Or would St*ngray, honeypots and triangulation kill that? I'm not smart enough to know. :eek:
     
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  6. JFKI

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    That would depend on how those are set up.
    I would imagine a large mesh network set up using TOR principles would work...
    Until the feds ( or whomever ) captured and took over one of the exit nodes. o_O
     
  7. melted

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    :doh:I completely forgot about that aspect. That's a good point.

    There are a bunch of new routing schemes for mesh with encryption that don't use TOR.
    But as you said, if they get widely deployed I guess it's only a matter of time before the same
    sort of scenario happens. I've strayed too far off the path anyway. If any of you are interested in
    getting into that sort of conversation I'll start a thread. There are plenty of projects going on with
    radio, laser, and visual light communication.

    I also forgot that Google scooped up all of the wifi mac's when they did the "street view"
    with the cars, and that phones can use those with GPS, and wireless tower triangulation for location services.
     
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