Anti RemoveWAT

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  1. Konde

    Konde MDL Novice

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    Someone know a method to prevent the installation of "removeWAT" and similar applications?
     
  2. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    Uhm what ?

    RemoveWAT, just dont press removewat or even download it ?
     
  3. NoJuan999

    NoJuan999 Experienced SLIC Tool Operator

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    LOL, that's the best method I know of.
     
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  4. ! .ĐΛЄMØИ. !

    ! .ĐΛЄMØИ. ! MDL Junior Member

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    I so totally agree ROFL.
     
  5. evildave

    evildave MDL Junior Member

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    Applocker or group policies.
     
  6. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    No, best way to "block" these kinda apps are not to download it, there is no other "best way".

    Thinking topic creator is a troll...or very..<insert own word>
     
  7. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

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    #7 Mr Jinje, May 16, 2010
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    Failing all the other good advice you have recieved, the next best solution is to not use Windows at all. Just install OSX or Ubunto, then you don't need to worry if you accidentally slip, trip, and hit the download button. (surprisingly that excuse never works with my wife)
     
  8. Daz

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    #8 Daz, May 16, 2010
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    Although this thread is sort of funny I was actually hoping the OP would post again to say why he might want to do that. For example maybe it's a PC shared between a group of college friends and the guy who actually owns it doesn't want any of his friends running things on it which change the system in such a way that RemoveWAT/Chew/Loaders etc do. Possible maybe but unlikely so this thread will end up closed soon.
     
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  9. Konde

    Konde MDL Novice

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    Haha, you are very funny guys, yeah I should have explained myself better.

    I don´t want anyone that I sell a pc (I have a business to run) without license (with the win 7 30 day trial) to just use a loader (just killed with kb71033) or a removeWat software to activate their machine.

    No much people understand what is to lose a sell for something so simple like that. So, I know I can't prevent them from downloading a iso from internet and using that, but a least that could make more difficult for most people.

    I was thinking on a script that check at startup if WAT is present and if don´t, then run kb71033 in silent mode.

    Sorry for my poor english and if you don´t like the idea, well I have a family to feed and my country is not so good like yours.

    Thanks.
     
  10. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #10 timesurfer, May 16, 2010
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    It actually might be considered tampering with system files to prevent such activation tool use. Which is like a hack so you might be defeating the purpose of being in "anti-hack mode with a hack...lol Plus you got the freedom thing to deal with. It's not your responsibility to police others when they purchase your computers just provide them with a legit OS so I'd just chill and live and let live. I can appreciate you wanting to keep you business legit but funny your asking for hack on site that specializes in "alternative dealing with activation concepts". Have fun dude...lol

    I think MS might have your interest in mind although they seem not so proficient or are allowing such hacks for vey specific reasons like they get more advertising with programmers creating exploits and/or they get to find where their programmers missed a hole in their programming that we point out...lol
     
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    miafruch MDL Novice

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    I think his idea is that if he sells a computer in win7 trial mode because they didnt want to pay for it initially, he wants them to come back to him to purchase a full proper license to increase income for his business, instead of them cracking it.
     
  12. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #12 timesurfer, May 16, 2010
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    Maybe thats it...lol But even still he'll need a hack to do it hence he ends up like any hacker...lol He'll just have to wait for MS to give him what he wants...lol
     
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  13. golk75

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    I can only imagine if all manufacturers had to limit the end user from their computers.
    They will do anything to make sure you come back and buy more. But don't even think about Support.
     
  14. secr9tos

    secr9tos MDL Addicted

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    The problem is that this might work quite well with standard pc users but will not prevent experienced users from cracking it.
     
  15. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    Bill dreamt of software,
    and being rich in a day,
    he programmed a system,
    it was quite OK.

    The people were happy,
    gladly paying their fee,
    but then came the pirates,
    trying to take it for free.

    Billy got angry,
    'activation' he screamed,
    for a short time successful,
    ...or so he believed.

    Cause the pirates in plenty,
    enjoying the play,
    taught him where there's a Windows,
    there is a way.


    © ₱Ḧ₳ŽӨЯ 2010
     
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  16. Daz

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    I would just be honest with them, tell them it's in a trial mode and for x amount more you will give them a genuine serial. What you shouldn't do is use a loader to activate their system, that can be bad for business because if MS ever circumvent loader solutions you will get some heat from your customers. You also shouldn't share keys between a large group of systems as while that saves you money if one of the people using the key manages to get it blacklisted then it effects everyone else using it too.
     
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  17. urie

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    I can assure you that you won't be i bussiness very long if you are selling machines without valid licence. That is one thing MS do come down on also trading standard agencies, someone reports you and you will be in deep Sh*t and get really heavy fine. Just install Linux or have customers pay for windows OS.
     
  18. Dolorous Edd

    Dolorous Edd MDL Expert

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    Exactly, one of the biggest problems I had selling systems was explaining the fact that they had to purchase an OS. They would spend a grand on two video cards but balk at $150 for an OEM copy. Now I just tell them in the beginning that they provide the OS or we install Linux. I refuse to sell MS software and I don't like selling OEM software, it is a ripoff in my opinion.
     
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  19. urie

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    Totally agree had it years ago when working in friend's computer shop Windows XP at that time, pay for machine and don't want to pay for OS sytem also one's comming in for repair with vlk keys that had been blacklisted you get them all.
     
  20. Dolorous Edd

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    LOL, and they get pissed off at you when you tell them you can't reinstall with that key. TO the OP, it is a difficult situation but by sending the computers out in the 30 day grace period you may or may not be in violation of the EULA. I know it is legal to operate in the grace period but you as a business owner may be putting yourself in an awkward situation. When someone borks their system with a loader or uses a key and then goes whining to MS for the $100 discount on 7 pro for ratting someone out they are not going to say that they broke it. They are going to shrug their shoulders and say "well, you know, it was Joe Bob at Joe Bob's computOrs that installed it".

    I know you do not want to send a computer out that does not have a functioning windows on it but when, not if things go wrong they are going to be looking at you. Trying to run a computer business sucks, that is why I went back to working in my original trade.
     
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