Antivirus Software for Windows 10 Compared

Discussion in 'Application Software' started by Katzenfreund, Dec 2, 2016.

  1. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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  2. BigW

    BigW MDL Member

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    In my experience all "benchmarking" PcWelt publishes are fancy packaged advertisements from the test winners. If not all the magazines in Germany would do this they would get sued for unfair competision not disclosing all the advertisements this posts contains. (Abmahnung!!) I discarded all these "comparrisons" for a long time. About 10 years back all things from Symantec got all the first places but every suporter in the field suporting customer pcs knew that this was not the reality. The symantec crap threw on my personal systems many GBs intoo the abbys with no other influence than beeing installed on it and simply failing in the worst case possible out of the blue. There AV was painfully slow and mised several bad viruses other AVs found. Since than I don't take such benchmarks seriously any more. My opinion is that the position of these rankings are corealating to the amount they paid the magazine for adds. And MS isn't paying for advertising there Windows Defender so it always gets a bad spot. It's not the best (MS is not an AV-specialist) but I'll take it every time over Norton AV.

    Avira beeing German also had some influence not that I think Avira is bad. They must have paid the magazine a decent enought amount to be on the top place.
     
  3. nodnar

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    very true. if you install the testwinner your desktop will try to do a helicopter act and take to the air by means of its fans. ;)
     
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  4. Dark Knight

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    Really!?

    I cannot believe as far as we have come in the digital age that people still must post stuff like this.

    There is not an antivirus that is made that will save you if you don't use the most powerful antivirus there is .......... common sense.

    Don't believe those tests, never have, never will. I believe the best test results are sold to the highest bidder.
     
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  5. Korvar

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    AV-Comparatives is another source for AV benchmarking - Avira and Kaspersky (among others) also score highly there.

    Although tests like these should be viewed with a skeptical eye, if the 'winners' are still Avira and Kaspersky, we're standing on pretty good ground.

    User behavior is no doubt the #1 risk factor - yet I've seen the benefit of using security products, particularly with less technically literate users. Saving these users from themselves is an ongoing battle, but a solid AV can be part of the mitigation plan. For instance, I have had good luck with the combination of the free Avira and paid Malwarebytes Anti-Malware solving the most common problems these users face (the typical browser bars, adware, etc.). These users could probably get away with using NoScript, but just try to get them to set permissions - they won't do it and will get frustrated that websites aren't working as they should.

    We certainly shouldn't be disparaging the OP for posting this; I could understand if it came from an account that only promoted these products, but that is not the case here. If anything, it will invite discussion as to what recommendations, if any, are suspect so we can all make more informed decisions.

    Vielen Dank, Katzenfreund.
     
  6. Johnfpro

    Johnfpro MDL Novice

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    I agree 100%
     
  7. Katzenfreund

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    And I cannot believe that people who themselves have nothing to contribute, all they can do is criticize those who try to contribute.

    Criticizing is easy. Any "lacking person"* can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most "lacking persons"* do. (Dale Carnegie)

    * Original word diplomatically replaced to avoid contravening the rules.
     
  8. tonez

    tonez MDL Novice

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    Really!?

    I cannot believe as far as we have come in the digital age that people still must post stuff like this.

    There is not an antivirus that is made that will save you if you don't use the most powerful antivirus there is .......... common sense.

    Don't believe those tests, never have, never will. I believe the best test results are sold to the highest bidder. POST THE QUOTE FULLY NOT PARTS THAT CAN HELP YOU MAKE SMALL REMARKS AND POINTS OF NO INTEREST TO ANYONE
     
  9. Katzenfreund

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    Here we have another one…or probably the same one reregistering for parrot-like repetition. And deserving the same answer. With his very first post, before contributing one single thing himself, all he can do is attack contributors.

    A non-contributor of zero value, with cheap transparent posting tricks, really not worth my time replying to him.
     
  10. nodnar

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    time they were moderated. it is all very well that the mods delete my answer, but they are sorely lacking in the cleaning of trolls.:mad:
     
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  11. Katzenfreund

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    It is unfortunate that some people join discussion forums when they know nothing about mature exchange of opinions.

    In a proper discussion, anybody can disagree with the OP or anybody else and state his reasons. This is not only acceptable, but indeed expected as part of the exchange, since no productive discussion can take place if everybody agrees.

    What spoils the discussion and provokes a quarrel is when someone, instead of addressing the subject and the arguments, launches an unprovoked personal attack on the poster.

    This gets even worse, when the attacker makes no useful contributions to the board himself, and only undermines those who try to contribute something useful.

    So in this particular case, while nobody has to accept the comparison results of the AV tests, and can freely say so, I certainly owe no apology to anybody for posting them. I personally consider them both correct and useful and leave others to make up their own mind.

    Bottom line is that such trolling behavior, if allowed to continue and spread, will eventually lead to people just not posting anything they consider of value. After all, nobody is obliged to post anything for the sake of others. And while the contributor can live with lack of appreciation and ingratitude, he won’t accept receiving personal insults instead.