[ASK] The Difference Between Modded-BIOS & Boot Loader ?

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  1. bibia

    bibia MDL Junior Member

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  2. maorosh

    maorosh MDL Junior Member

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    #2 maorosh, Aug 2, 2009
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    hmmmm

    bootlo*der is emulated slic that load from file before windows boot load
    moded bios is bios that modifie'd with a slic SO both are bios with slic
    just that one is emulated (grldr, system drive) and one in the bios
     
  3. maorosh

    maorosh MDL Junior Member

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  4. tcdr

    tcdr MDL Novice

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    The reason so many people use modded BIOSes is that it's virtually impossible for Microsoft to see if you're running a hack. It is always theoretically possible for them to detect boot loaders, although they have not done that yet. Also, it's easier to just flash a BIOS instead of dealing with bootloader upgrades, problems, and so on.
     
  5. maorosh

    maorosh MDL Junior Member

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    grldr is legal software (grub 4 dos) so MS can't block legal use :)
    am i right ?
     
  6. bibia

    bibia MDL Junior Member

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    @maorosh
    that's interesting..
    any feedback about it, tcdr?
     
  7. tcdr

    tcdr MDL Novice

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    grldr is legal, but the actual software BIOS modification it does could probably be detected.
     
  8. mack

    mack MDL Novice

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    I tried two different loader, they either worked till the first computer shutdown or my system would stop loading after a few days with underscore blinking in the corner of the screen without system actually loading or anything so I decied to flash bios in the end, although I badly flashed the bios at first attempty, managed to recover and flash again with different bios, what's more some people report longer boot time because of loader taking some time.
     
  9. mcbyte

    mcbyte MDL Junior Member

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    remains a small question, some tools on the board are called loaders, others activators, others softmod, but from what i see they all use grubloader as a base, so they all work in the same way?
     
  10. bibia

    bibia MDL Junior Member

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    @mack
    that's what i'm afraid of..
    my past experience, it's neater with modded-bios..
    but, i'm afraid something goes wrong..
    i know how to flash it..
    but still, everytime i did it..
    a total nightmare..
    but when i succeded, i feel like a god. :D

    @mcbyte
    yes, they are all the same.. :)
     
  11. HSChronic

    HSChronic MDL Expert

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    It is not the fact that grub is legal or illegal, it is the mod itself that they detect.

    They were supposed to stop loaders with Vista SP2, and some like the paradox loader stopped working but most did not. With loaders it can be a cat and mouse game, but the truth is that hackers will always find a way to stay a step ahead once a fix is released. The only way for MS to really truly stop piracy is to require a constant call home to MS or have Bill or Steve stand over you shoulder and we all know how upset people would be about that.

    So if you are unsure about flashing a BIOS then go with the grub based solution. If you know you can recover your board if you brick it then go with a mod.
     
  12. bibia

    bibia MDL Junior Member

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    thx HSChronic
    i know that's a wise decision..

    i'm just curious about the performance..
    i know, someday, the crack might be not working anymore..
    n if that happen, we can simply re-crack it again..

    i just want to know about "the x factor"..
    performance, n else..
    that's all..