[ASK] Windows 8.1 USB Slow Transfer Speed

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by SiJampang, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. SiJampang

    SiJampang MDL Novice

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    #1 SiJampang, Mar 31, 2014
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    Is there anybody here has a problem with USB transfer speed on Windows 8.1? I already tried many thing, including updating the BIOS, checking the drivers, but it only get 3MB/s each time i transfer a data/file from my HDD to USB Flashdrive! The weird thing is, it difference if i'm using Windows 7 (with the same PC), i get normal speed at about 30-40MB/s! Just FYI, i'm using Jetway HI08 Motherboard.

    Is there anybody experience the same as i do? Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you.
     
  2. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Yes, a lot of people experience problems with the default Windows 8.x USB3 xHCI drivers.
    To fix the situation, go to your manufacturer's website and download usb3 drivers.
    If not available there, try station-drivers.com drivers section and scroll down to the usb3 section
     
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  3. SiJampang

    SiJampang MDL Novice

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    I already tried that just a moment ago, but still there is no speed improvement with my USB transfer speed. :(

    But anyway, thank you for your fast suggestion murphy! :D
     
  4. ian82

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    1) Tell me which edition of Windows 8.1 you are using, the exact name of the ISO

    I noticed that with the Windows 8.1 I downloaded from Microsoft, USB speeds were slow as heck, like 10MB/S vs. 100 MB/S now with the Windows 8.1 RTM I downloaded off MDL

    the RTM version was actually better in performance than the Retail Microsoft ISO for some strange reason

    2) Read this: http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/52760-Slow-USB-3-0-Write-speeds

    3) Windows 8/8.1 does not need any USB 3.0 drivers they are built in
     
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  5. mabaega

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    you mean ISO from MDL different with ISO from Microsoft?
     
  6. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Wrong! The drivers in Windows are generic drivers which will work (maybe slow working) and that's it! To get the full performance of the devices connected, there's maybe the need of the Manufacturer drivers for the Chipset and/or the device!
     
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  7. Yen

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    To clarify things.

    No they are not, we only provide clean ISOs which are absolutely the same (you can check and compare the hashes).
    We do not allow to provide any modified ISOs. But there are different versions. (RTM / GA)


    I guess he's meant that w8 comes with USB 3 drivers already and one doesn't need to install some to get USB 3.0 speed.
     
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  8. ian82

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    Yes the retail ISO you download via SetupBox is usually meant for that system it is being installed on and will only accept on key, either Core or Pro depending on the key you entered while downloading it.

    The RTM ISO will accept a core or Pro key
     
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    When I try to install the USB 3.0 Extensible Host Driver 2.5.x that I successfully install on Windows 7, on Windows 8.1, it says not compatible with my hardware
     
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    #11 Enigma256, Mar 31, 2014
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    For once, ian82 is actually right. Both you and murphy78 are wrong.

    First, we don't know if the OP is even asking about USB3. You just assumed it. There is no mention of USB3, and the speeds involved are well within the range of USB2.

    Second, manufacturer-specific USB3 drivers for Windows 8 do not exist (edit: for most chipsets). Just as there are no manufacturer-specific USB1/2 drivers. Edit: Apparently, there are some chipset manufs that continue to make USB3 drivers for Windows 8, including Asmedia, which is the listed chipset manuf for that particular board.

    Third, you should never force Windows 7 USB3 drivers onto Windows 8.

    The symptoms suggest a different problem, most likely unrelated to what drivers are being used for the controller (and if the OP is using USB2, then it's almost certainly not a driver issue since those are always generic). I'm not sure what that could be, but there is nothing in the post to favor a driver issue over other culprits, and, in fact, driver issues would be among the more unlikely culprits.

    Added: And something else to try would be to update the BIOS/firmware.



    Instead of randomly guessing, it's probably better to ask some questions:

    1) Is this USB2 or 3?

    2) Is he writing the same file each time? Using the same flash drive? Due to the way flash drives work, their write speeds are very sensitive to things like file size. Caching can also play a role in perceived write speed. And since flash drives are subject to the same kinds of write problems as SSDs, but they don't have fancy controllers that do good garbage collection, a flash drive's write speeds usually drop substantially and lose consistency once it's been used for a while, so how similar were the two test conditions?

    3) Does this happen with a clean Windows install before installing any other software (including any anti-malware, which I generally recommend against using).
     
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  13. Mutagen

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    #13 Mutagen, Mar 31, 2014
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    "First, we don't know if the OP is even asking about USB3. You just assumed it. There is no mention of USB3, and the speeds involved are well within the range of USB2."

    I just Googled the OP motherboard - USB 3.0

    (And when it "comes" to USB 3.0 transfer speeds, how dare anyone question ian82!)
     
  14. murphy78

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    I looked up the motherboard and it was usb3 capable..
    The guy mentioned getting up to 40mb/s transfer previously.
    Anything over 30mb/s is usb3

    So yes, he did mention usb3 without mentioning it.
     
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  15. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Agreed the guy did mention usb3 implicitly, never explicitly. Please anyone who disagree re-read OP.
     
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  17. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    You can't install the asmedia drivers? They install fine for me...
    Have you tried pointing your system directly at the INF and forcing them to install?
     
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    I don't know if this might be helpful, but on 2 different systems running a Logitech M510 and an MS whatever something or other Mouse on a usb3 port while trying to use a USB3 device totally degrades performance on both pieces of hardware.

    By moving USB2 devices off all USB3 ports I am able to get full speeds and functionality out of everything on the two systems. e.g Mouse would lag so bad it would barely be usable and a USB3 ext HDD and USB3 128gb flash drive both slowed to 30/s and under. I made specific to the 128gb usb3 flash since with smaller usb3 flash drives (32 and 64gb) it wasn't AS noticeable, but extremely noticeable with the 128gb one.

    Still playing around with different configurations when time allows, but this is what I've been noticing.
     
  19. Helmutcheese

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    #19 Helmutcheese, Apr 1, 2014
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    Think I tried and got issues or crashes.

    All over Asus forums, so its best to leave to 8.1 MS driver for now on Asus Z87

    Even issues with the FW update and driver for the ASMedia SATA controller but I only use the Intel ports anyhow.


    @ EFA11 There is known issues with USB 3.0 interfering with wireless mice at 2.4GHZ.

    Can read on Wiki USB 3.0 page and Logitech forums.
     
  20. SiJampang

    SiJampang MDL Novice

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    Really sorry for this confusing question, here are my answer:

    1. Doesn't matter USB 2 or 3, both are the same, has problems with flash drive transfer speed.
    2. No, I already tried with different file and different USB flash drive...
    3. I already reformat my OS for more than 2 times, the result still the same...

    And now I even bought a new motherboard, and you know what??!!! the result still the same!!!! the slow transferring speed still exists!!! damn...