Asus N56VZ with N56VB bios

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  1. pingpo

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    Hi, yesterday i upgraded my laptop to windows 10 and now my Geforce 650M doesn't get recognized. no matter what driver i install it won't work. I even reinstalled windows 7 agian and tried the official driver but it didn't help.

    now i looked up on the internet and found a site where they say that the bios(chip) may cause the problem. my bios chip got a few months ago broken and got replaced by a shop. today i found out that the bios says "Model: N56VB" instead of N56VZ. The N56VB has a different graphics card then the N56VZ so maybe that is the problem. So I tried to install the original N56VZ bios update from Asus but i get the error that the model number is not correct.

    Could someone give me advice on what the problem could be and how i could fix it.
    If the bios is the problem, do i have to get the bios chip out of the laptop and let it replaced or reprogrammed again?
    Or is it possible to force the original N56VZ bios update because it is the same chip so it shouldn't be a problem i think. if it isn't a problem how can i do that?

    Thanks in advanced
     
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    #2 not_a_user, Oct 15, 2015
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    did you tried to install the Intelgfx driver first ?
    anyway
    here is the link to the N56VZv217 bios ht tp : / / dlcdnet. asus .c om /pub/ ASUS/nb/ N56VZ /N56VZAS217.zip you can try to flash it with h tt p: / / dlc dn et.as us . com /pub/AS US/nb/Ap ps_for_Win8/ WinFlash/W inFlash_W in8_64_Z2411.zip

    Im not able to post links so you have to remove the spaces sry for dat

    If you have problems to remove the spaces copy the links in notepad and replace the spaces with nothing

     
  3. Joe C

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    #4 pingpo, Oct 15, 2015
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    @not_a_user: yes i tried to install intel gfx first but it didn't help even when the i successfully install the 650M driver windows gives me the next error: Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)

    and I can't install the original bios update with winflash because it says that this is the wrong model, that's why my questions if it's possible to force the bios update even when it says wrong model and would it break my laptop if i do that?

    @Joe C: is there an easy way to check the motherboard model number, because it's not so easy to open the laptop and i never did it before.

    yes i tried to install the original asus GT740M driver but just like the original 650M driver i get the error that that the driver could not find compatible hardware and it's not only in windows 10 but also in windows 7.

    it just broke by itself the one day it was working fine and the next morning the laptop didn't start at all. no asus logo nothing. the shop said that the bios chip was broken so i let them fix it.
     
  5. Joe C

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    #5 Joe C, Oct 15, 2015
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    I would not try forcing a bios update at this time, you could easily brick your laptop and will need another bios. Asus does not provide a driver for Windows 7 on that N56VB model
    Have you checked Windows Update to see if Microsoft is providing a driver?
    Obviously that shop used a N56VB motherboard to replace the N56VZ board that you had, Use the Drivers for a N56VB model
     
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    #6 pingpo, Oct 15, 2015
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    that is correct but there are drivers to find on laptopvideo2go when i fill in the video card hardware id which is: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FD1&SUBSYS_14771043
    and if I'm correct that hardware id is for the Geforce 650M

    Still no driver update from windows and asus for windows 10

    i think so too but if it's the same motherboard that means the N56VB and N56VZ has the same bioschip and so it wouldn't be a problem to force the N56VZ bios update (I hope).

     
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    this windows 10 install is a fresh install (3 days old) and still no helpful update
    and i just tried to install the original driver from the nvidia website but still no luck it shows me the error no compatible hardware is found
     
  9. QuantumBug

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    In most cases the motherboard model sticker or hard print is inside the memory compartment. This is usually so oem engineers can have easy access upon RMA arrival.

    Make sure you have no problem devices at all. You need to install chipset, management engine interface and then vga drivers.

    Please, what is your extended model number and bios version? Also, did you know if you keep reinstalling graphics card software you should be selecting clean install for NVIDIDIDDDIA drivers.

    Sorry my phone is on crack this evening.
     
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    #10 pingpo, Oct 17, 2015
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    @The Dev: Thanks for your reply
    1. I looked inside the memory compartment but the model number wasn't there so I disassembled the whole laptop and found N56VM model number on the motherboard. (http : / / i57 . tinypic . com / 2r2572b . jpg and http : / / i58 . tinypic . com / qx17hv . jpg)

    2. All the devices are working correctly except the Geforce 650M. Asus doesn't provide any windows 10 drivers for this laptop so if you could give me a link to the correct drivers that would be a great help. on windows 7 I installed all the drivers but it didn't help.

    3. The sticker on the bottom of the laptop says N56VZ-S4035V. Bios version is 202 http : / / i62.tinypic . com / 2mo2k40. jpg and I am aware of the piont that every time i install a new driver i have to select the clean install box.
     
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    The FIRST thing to do is to figure out what system you've got. It is very likely that when you sent it in for repair, they replaced your motherboard with a different one, hence the different BIOS. If so, you NO LONGER HAVE an N56VZ. Install utilities like AIDA64 etc. to find out what hardware is in your system NOW. Then find and install drivers for THAT hardware. Be sure to send the repair shop a stinker if your current system is of a lower spec than the one you sent in - they are not supposed to do that without consulting you.
     
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    @Joe C: 1. i did that multiple times but no help. this was the part that i could install the driver from laptopvideo2go and then windows would give me the error: Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)

    2. just installed windows 8 intel chipset drivers then tried to install gfx driver but no luck. also searched for new windows driver update but also no luck

    @eemuler: this is what AIDA64 says about my laptop:
    Motherboard: CPU Type Mobile QuadCore Intel Core i7-3610QM, 3200 MHz (32 x 100)
    Motherboard Name Asus N56VB Series Notebook
    Motherboard Chipset Intel Panther Point HM76, Intel Ivy Bridge
    System Memory [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DIMM1: SK Hynix HMT351S6CFR8C-PB 4 GB DDR3-1600 DDR3 SDRAM (11-11-11-28 @ 800 MHz) (10-10-10-27 @ 761 MHz) (9-9-9-24 @ 685 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-19 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-16 @ 457 MHz) (5-5-5-14 @ 380 MHz)
    DIMM3: SK Hynix HMT351S6CFR8C-PB [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    BIOS Type AMI (01/21/2013)


    Display:
    Video Adapter Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (2304 MB)
    Video Adapter Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (2304 MB)
    Video Adapter Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (2304 MB)
    3D Accelerator Intel HD Graphics 4000
    3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce GT 650M


    Multimedia:
    Audio Adapter Intel Panther Point HDMI @ Intel Panther Point PCH - High Definition Audio Controller [C-1]
    Audio Adapter Realtek ALC663 @ Intel Panther Point PCH - High Definition Audio Controller [C-1]


    Network:
    Network Adapter Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30) (192. [ TRIAL VERSION ])
    Network Adapter Qualcomm Atheros AR9485WB-EG Wireless Network Adapter


    DMI:
    DMI BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
    DMI BIOS Version N56VB.202
    DMI System Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    DMI System Product N56VB
    DMI System Version 1.0
    DMI System Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DMI System UUID [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DMI Motherboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    DMI Motherboard Product N56VB
    DMI Motherboard Version 1.0
    DMI Motherboard Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DMI Chassis Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    DMI Chassis Version 1.0
    DMI Chassis Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DMI Chassis Asset Tag [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DMI Chassis Type Notebook

    it has exact the same spec as before except the motherboard model. even AIDA64 says that the videocard is an Geforce 650M. so something is wrong because the N56VB model doesn't have the Geforce 650M gfx
     
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    #14 pingpo, Oct 18, 2015
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    @Joe C: 1. i did that multiple times but no luck. this was the part that i could install the driver from laptopvideo2go and then windows would give me the error: Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)

    2. just installed windows 8 intel chipset drivers then tried to install gfx driver but no luck. also searched for new windows driver update but also no luck

    @eemuler: this is what AIDA64 says about my laptop: (my reply doesn't get posted maybe because of the big text so here as picture)
    h t t p : / / i59 . tinypic . com / 2zxyzhc . jpg

    it has exact the same spec as before except the motherboard model. even AIDA64 says that the videocard is an Geforce 650M. so something is wrong because the N56VB model doesn't have the Geforce 650M gfx
     
  15. Hadron-Curious

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    Try the hardware ID of the graphic adapter at the device manager if it will get you something compatible.
     
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    @Hadron-Curious: What do you mean? A compatible driver? if so i tried that. I filled in the device id (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FD1&SUBSYS_14771043) on a website for custom drivers (laptopvideo2go) and downloaded the correct driver but it still won't work. normal installation get cancelled because of "can't find any compatible hardware" error and installing it like what Joe C said in Safe Mode completes the installation. it gets installed but device manager puts a yellow triangel beside the device and in the properties of the device it says: Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
     
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    Yes the intel HD graphics works just fine. what has been change that it became so messed up because like i said before it can't be that the motherboard is replaced by a N56VB because of a different video card and the rest of the specs are exactly the same.
    The driver you provided doesn't work "This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware"
     
  19. QuantumBug

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    You may have to edit nvidia inf files for your graphics card ids.
     
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    Tried that too and the driver gets installed but it stills give me the error code 43