Bios for Sapphire "Grouper" A9RX480 mobo?

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    i had a strange issue recently with G41m-ES2L .. XP worked fine for 1 1/2 yr.. then it never wanted to show video.. different cards too.
    i mean i tried all hardware. only thing not tried was new mobo.
    get this.. 7 boots fine so does 7 setup.. xp wont boot video so its mobo issue that not even gigabyte can diag properly (they kept giving me steps i already did)
     
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    Very interesting problem. However you get the POST DOS display, witch is why you can install Win7... I did not get anything. I cannot look or set anything in BIOS, because I did not see it.

    This is, therefore, much worser situation. I did not even get into the situation, where I will start installing and then come troubles... I must first see something on the monitor...
     
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    #6 LatinMcG, Jul 13, 2013
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    the good thing is u can hotswap it on dos before u run the flash.exe on another computer with same socket.

    if its less that 512K then u can use a few network cards with that socket and FLASHROM

    however i would not doubt ram issue or chipset needing reflow
     
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    Any suggested bios settings to make the card work?

    Yes, it is claimed to be 16x PCIEx speed... shall I try 8x? Okay, tried 8x, no difference

    Some settings are really interesting - how about these?

    LTD Configuration - Enabled
    Upstream LTD Bus Width - 16bit
    Downstream LTD Bus Width - 16bit
    LTD Bus Frequency - Auto (1GHz, 800MHz, 600MHz, 400MHz, 200MHz)

    (I know, this have more to do with the CPU memory controler that GFX card, but who knows?)

    PCIE GFX Core Payload Size - 64Bytes (32Bytes, 16Bytes)
    PCIE GPP Core Payload Size - 64Bytes (32Bytes, 16Bytes)
    NB-SB Port Configuration - Default (Enhanced)
    PCI-E GFX Link Width - x16 (x12, x8, x4, x2, x1)
    Assign IRQ For VGA - Enabled (Disabled)

    ...any suggestions?


    MSI seems inclined to claim that this is just a "compatibility issue." They are probably right about it. Is there any bios fix for this card, or I'm completely helpless in making it work in my Sapphire A9RX480 mobo?

    BTW, where MKV tech net guys go? There are some talk about VGA bios mods, perhaps they can help me out with this...? Anyone know?
     
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    #9 LatinMcG, Jul 17, 2013
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    i thinks its related to northbridge -southbridge port config

    also look for VGA or RAM bios caching. disable it.

    sounds like pcie ver 1 and pcie 2 compat issue

    mkv dissapeared but their files live on .. majorgeeks.com has nibitor .. i used it yesterday for NVCAP for M1710 nvidia dsdt fix
     
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    I realized, where the problem is. Since the mainboard Sapphire A9RX480 PCIE slots are version 1.0a, then any graphic card have to be backwards compatible with PCIE 1.0a in order to work. Since there is, in the MSI GeForce 210-MD512H, mentioned only support for PCIE v2.0, then it probably means that it will never work on PCIE v1.0a and hence I need a gfx card, that is backward compatible with PCIE v1.0a...
    And this card is not it.

    So, unless there could be done a bios tweak, that allow this backward compatibility, there is no way to make the card work in Sapphire A9RX480. Damn!


    - bios caching disabled
    - definitively a compatible issue :(

    NiBitor is great, but it does not have a function "make bios compatible for PCIE 1.0a" and therefore it will not help me one bit. What is the DSDT fix you mention...? :confused: Should be interesting to learn, what new issues some of the new HW have...
     
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    dsdt fix for apple osx in XPS m1710.

    i never checked into video bios editing and especially ver 1 or 2 mod

    try older card like 9500
     
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    #15 LatinMcG, Aug 1, 2013
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    im almost sure its a problem with the card bios and u might want to try other newer models maybe gt 220 ? i like xfx and gigabyte brands.. i never liked MSI since 2001.

    zotac is nice too in the sense that they work with end user.. they might have a bios for VGA card ( if your was zotac) to flash beta.
    ( CodeRush has contacts to zotac europe near u)
     
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    i think u can use a core duo not core2 duo.. specific FSB of 800 i believe (might be wrong.. research it)

    u might be able to flash that msi card with a similar model different manufacturer video bios.
     
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