Ok lets say you have an old obsolete motherboard with a final Bios, I guess I can see using a modded bios. The risk is low, especially if others are having good results. Undertand that bios is the crux of stability with your computer, the engineers spend many hours programming it to stability. Granted inserting a slic table in an old bios is low risk but there are reports of functions lost due to space/capacity. However lets say you have a new motherboard, maybe UEFI, maybe not just new. What are the advatages of a bios mod? I mean any possible target from M$ to attack the loader would disable a bios mod anyway. A new motherboard will go thru quite a few bios updates, everytime someone attempts to insert the slic there is potential for a bricked Mb for the new bios. A lot of folks on this forum seem to think a bios mod is superior but I just don't see it. I think newcommers, who are most likely to have new hardware should think twice about a bios mod over the loader. I seriously doubt that M$ will everfind a means to disable the Daz loader band not disable a bios mod, the both require a certificate and a key, those are the vulnerabilities. The Slic table loader is outside M$'s territory, breaching that would be no different that breaching bios and would be against even M$'s rules. Just my 2 cents.
You can NOT 'detect' a bios mod. What they CAN do though is having a forced OEM list, if your Modelnummer isnt on the list, your windows gets invalidated. But this is alot of work and the probability that this gets a workaround by Day 1 is 100% So BIOS Mod is the <best> way to activate, but by far not the safest, if your mobo doesnt have some sort of protection against a damaged bios, you need a new BIOS chip/mobo if it bricks
The loaders advantage over a BIOS mod is that it works on older systems and newer systems, allows you to easily ignore problematic SLIC's and change the location of where the SLIC gets placed. It's result is the same as a BIOS mod (loads a SLIC into memory) but it's done without making any hardware changes. As you've said, if you buy a new system then it will probably get some BIOS updates so if you go the BIOS mod route then each time theres an update released you'd have to re-modify your BIOS if you wanted to update. This isn't a problem with the loader. The only problem the loader has is with Windows 7 setup to use UEFI. It changes the disk to GPT and no classic 'BIOS' is emulated so theres nothing there for the loader to work with. With that said the loader will work on UEFI hardware as long as you setup Windows to use MBR instead. Basically the BIOS mod is permanent and secure but the loader is more flexible and appeals to a wider audience. That's not to say the loader isn't secure, in fact it's avoided every single system and service pack update
Both activation methods have merit. A fundamental difference is that Daz's loader poses no risk of bricking your motherboard. To say both methods can not be detected i think is a little hasty. Whilst MS have not detected the loader yet does not mean they will not do so in the future no matter how unlikely it may seem right now. Also the BIOS mod could potentially be detected using hardware checks / bios dates etc. Its simply a matter of choice. For ease of use go with the loader, its simple to use and highly successful. The BIOS mod also successful but there are risks. As for UEFI BIOS, to my knowledge it isnt possible right now to insert a slic table due to digital signature. So if you have UEFI then go with the loader.
It's like the old Windows vs Linux debate - both have merits! It's a personal choice -mine being a mod 'cos it's more of a challenge - should M$ decide to target bios dates or machine models etc, the modders will rise to the challenge - can the loaders? Having said that big up to Daz for his dedication....
@ YangerD As far as I know you'd select to boot the USB without UEFI instead. @ Whazzupsuperfly Some might risk flashing a BIOS on new hardware but some might not dare to try. As you said it's their personal choice We probably could patch stuff from the loader. In fact in the latest version we even have table spoofing
Fooling BIOS dates isn't that difficult, especially with AMI bioses... nothing a hex editor & AMIBCP can't fix
Daz, is it possible (or perhaps, will it be possible?) to install and boot Windows 7 in UEFI mode and use your loader?
The loader can work on UEFI systems but only when the drive is setup to use MBR. Code: ########################################################################## # 4 - UEFI motherboards ########################################################################## The loader doesn't work when the systems using GPT via UEFI. The workaround is to pre-format your hard drive so that it uses MBR instead. From your BIOS select to boot the Windows DVD without UEFI, go to the repair options, select command prompt and then enter this: diskpart list disk select disk 0 clean convert mbr create partition primary select partition 1 format fs=ntsf quick Boot the Windows DVD the same way you did the first time and then continue with the installation of Windows. Once complete you can install the loader.
Lets say you add a SLIC and it has a different OEM ID or OEM Table ID, like this: Code: BIOS Information: ACPI Table NameOEMID ValueOEMTableID Value APICDELL M07 FACPDELL M07 HPETDELL M07 BOOTDELL M07 MCFGDELL M07 SLICDELL WN09 SSDTPmRefCpuPm With the option enabled to patch OEM table ID's it will make it look like this: Code: BIOS Information: ACPI Table NameOEMID ValueOEMTableID Value APICDELL WN09 FACPDELL WN09 HPETDELL WN09 BOOTDELL WN09 MCFGDELL WN09 SLICDELL WN09 SSDTPmRefCpuPm It's not enabled by default because some systems don't like other tables being adjusted. That's also why table sorting is disabled by default.
I've got an ASRock 990FX Extreme 4 Board, updated ti newest BIOS version, but when I open Boot Menu, I have no such thing as "boot without UEFI". What do I do wrong? Edit: well,I've just tried it out and worked like a charm. I think because I have formatted my HDD with an XP and it wrote a MBR before installing it into my new PC. Could that be?
Does the BIOS mod method work with old BIOSes that do not support SLIC? (for example, I have an old Athlon machine with 2006 Phoenix BIOS) Thanks.