Can you get notified on updates only & Defender updates installs automatically?

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  1. dobbelina

    dobbelina MDL Senior Member

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    #1 dobbelina, Aug 28, 2016
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    Hi!

    Right now I have WU set to notify only,
    Can you get notified on updates only & Defender updates installs automatically?

    Reason is the defender updates come kinda regularly, and that bling sound doesn't make me happy :suicide:
     
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    No keys....
     
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    I'm not aware of something like that existing, but it would certainly be possible to write a script using the WUA API to specifically check for Defender updates and install those without prompting. That would probably come closest to what you're looking for.

    Not helpful in any way, as expected...
    Oh, and there's even a warez link to a product not related to what OP is asking for. Very impressive. :death:
     
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    dobbelina MDL Senior Member

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    Thanks for the non sugar free, vitamin enriched info.:D

    As i'm using WUMT right now, maybe it's better I post my concern in that thread.
     
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    Microsoft loves to make our life difficult.

    If you hack update settings, all updates like Store apps, Windows updates, driver updates and Defender updates are affected in same way.
     
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  8. lobo11

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    Hey Defender only updates 4 or 5 times a day, you got a date, lol, jk
     
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    4-5 times a day!, that sounds like swollen testicles to me :D
     
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  10. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    Get that free AV link I gave you, works great, I have it for same reason, Defender update nags:D
     
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    If anyone would know ask MrX :D

    I sent him PM with your question, he will get back to you. :D
     
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    So do you still get updates without the nag or you are just not protected at all:confused:
     
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    Edit Tasks without password
    Control Panel => System and Security => Admin tools => Local Sercurity Policies
    • Then, open Security Settings / Local Policies / Security Options
    • Double click on Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only
    • Click Disable and then click Apply and Ok.

    add a quick basic task in task scheduler program, (admin computer man)

    program "C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe"
    arguments -signatureupdate -MMPC

    Need to allow MpCmdRun.exe thru fire wall.

    Windows Defender will now update auto and you pick when and how often.

    Regards
     
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  16. dobbelina

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    #17 dobbelina, Sep 1, 2016
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    I started to investigate what's responsible for WU, and how to limit it's frequency.
    And it's interesting what I found out.
    Win update frequency is managed by the scheduled task Schedule Scan which is found here in the
    TS tasks tree:Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator

    This initiates a search for updates with the command line:%systemroot%\system32\usoclient.exe
    Argument:StartScan
    (The "wuauclt.exe /updatenow" is totally depreciated in Win 10 and wont work)

    What is more interesting is that the "One time" trigger,(There are 3 triggers in total) resets itself
    each time you log into windows! to that exact time.
    Then it will randomly execute within a 4 hour period, once that is done it repeats every 22 hours.
    This explains the "randomness" you feel when getting these notifications after login.
    Then there are 2 more triggers that I haven't been able to figure out, second trigger is on
    System EventID=8202, and third even weirder, it's a "Custom trigger" which executes with a 2 hour delay
    and looks like this:
    Code:
    <WnfStateChangeTrigger>
          <Enabled>true</Enabled>
          <Delay>PT2H</Delay>
          <StateName>7524BCA33E06830D</StateName>
          <Data>01</Data>
          <DataOffset>0</DataOffset>
        </WnfStateChangeTrigger>
    My new tactic to supress the notifications is by creating these 2 tasks:

    1. At logon initiate A silent Defender update with no delay
    Trigger: At logon and every hour
    Action:"C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe"
    Arguments:-Update -Hide

    2. At logon initiate a WU update with 1 minute delay so Defender update has time to finish
    Trigger: At logon
    Action:C:\Windows\System32\UsoClient.exe
    Arguments:StartScan

    This last task is useful, as I will be notified directly at login if there are any WU updates but without Defender ones.
    If somebody could figure out what those 2 weird triggers are, maybe we could tame this beast once and for all!
    So far I'm quite happy with my 2 tasks muffling that annoying Bling sound! :D
     
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