Can't activate 1809 but 1703 works fine different product key?

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  1. joshu

    joshu MDL Junior Member

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    I have a Windows 10 Pro 1703 VM (I created from scratch myself using SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_10_1703.1_64BIT_English_MLF_X21-47998.ISO) that it says is activated using "your organization's activation service".

    I downloaded Win10_1809Oct_English_x64.iso from MS and created a new VM but it won't activate which seems weird. The product key ends with 3V66T.

    How can I check what the product key is in the 1703 VM and do I need to use the same key to activate the 1809?
     
  2. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Message on first system means it's activated by KMS solution.

    Second needs KMS activation likewise. Atm the default Retail key is installed, that would only activate if a valid digital license exists for the respective machine.
     
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  3. mkuba50

    mkuba50 MDL PHP Wizard

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    If they have KMS server running in network with correctly configured DNS then Windows will automatically detect it and activate using it.
     
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  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I doubt that someone who downloads a OEMRET iso is running a private KMS server, but doesn't know it needs a gVLK, but all is possible these days :)
     
  5. nmook

    nmook MDL Novice

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    I thought the key that ends in 9MPGT-3V66T was blocked from activation on microsoft servers?
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It's the generic HWID for Pro key, won't be blocked and only activates when the system already has an established HWID for Pro.
     
  7. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Don't want to create a new Topic, so my post maybe is a bit 'OP'.

    Over the weekend I installed Windows 10 1809 on 4 computers, all with totally different Hardware and all those 4 now fully auto-activated used just the exact same Windows 8.1 Product Key!

    Those 4 machines are on the same LAN and Sub-Net (and the same Internet Connection), running all 4 at the exact same time WITHOUT any problems regarding the activation the last 46h!

    Checking each activation on every single machine, all showing to be activated using a Digital License, just the HWID differs for each.

    So, it would be interesting to see the next few days, if there are any changes, or get deactivated or whatsoever?! I'll have those machines for at least 3 weeks at my home, which should be really time enough to get an idea of what MS is doing on their activation system!

    Maybe someone likes to do similar testing? If so, that outcome would be maybe really interesting!
     
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  8. urie

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    @pisthai what os was installed before or how do you know they had not allready got HWID
     
  9. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Expert

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    This key has never been to activate something, so it cannot be blocked. It is the generic key what can be used for for installing or upgrading, but not for activating.
     
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  10. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    No, the complete hardware is brand-new for all 4 machines! Therefore, its simply impossible that they had an HWID already. And just to mention: None had an embedded Product Key in BIOS.
     
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  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    What does this mean? What is different about the HWID's?
     
  12. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    It means exactly what I wrote! Do YOU really need an explanation?
     
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  13. urie

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    Also what type of key was it mak ?
     
  14. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Original MS Retail Product Key for Windows 8.1 Pro! Used by the installation of W10 1809 Pro at the setup screen at that moment Setup asked for the Product Key.
     
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  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yes, i would like to know how one key can create different HWID's and what the difference is.

    Can you run the QT from here and post the saved report here?
     
  16. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Please read post #9 again, all info is there!
     
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  17. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    And just to be clear: I will NOT post any Product Key or Hardware ID (HWID) on this or any other public forum!

    That said, refrain to ask for some information alike!
     
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  18. urie

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