ccleaner with ssd

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  1. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    Hello all,

    thanks for all your help.
    But I need all your opinions again :D

    How safe is it to use ccleaner with a SSD? In terms of wear & therefore life expendency?

    thanks to all :biggrin:
     
  2. acyuta

    acyuta MDL Expert

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    I use it every day and have used it on my SSD since 2012.
     
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  3. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    Do you use the secure deletion mode as well? As I will not be using the option of secure empty space erasing.
     
  4. Ming_the_Merciless

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    I too would not do this on a regular basis. However, if I were to sell/donate/retire a SSD, I doubt doing it one time would cause much harm.
     
  5. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Afaik it only needs a Trim Run to unload all 'deleted' sectors. Secure Deletion would be an option for HDDs.
     
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  6. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    So if I delete a file, say from desktop / recycle bin or use cleaner non secure mode, then run trim & the file will no longer be available ?
     
  7. s1ave77

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    Data reconstruction is much more difficult on a SSD compared to HDD, afaik it's not possible to do with common tools, this would need lab environment (but it's possible with some effort).

    Wiping a SSD with tools like DBAN is not properly working and contraproductive likewise, there are tools from the SSD Vendors to erase all data completely, but only needed if you want to resell it.
     
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    hhd / ssd

    am i to understand that data recovery software like recuva etc. for hdd s will not work with an ssd :confused:
     
  9. Yen

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    #9 Yen, Mar 21, 2014
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  10. s1ave77

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    Never would stress my SSD with that :eek:. And for the several passes story: on modern HDDs the data stored that closely, that a single overwrite is mostly enough, the rest is overkill/paranoia :D.
     
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    c cleaner

    it is enough :) i mentioned that only for an explanatory purpose ;)
     
  12. s1ave77

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    #13 s1ave77, Mar 21, 2014
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    FYI: Manual Trim command:

    Code:
    defrag c: -h -o
    Where c: is apparently the drive you wish to trim :D.
     
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  13. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    #14 amanda, Mar 22, 2014
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    Thanks a lot.
     
  14. Yen

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    TRIM is supported >=windows 7 RTM.
    To check if it is enabled open CMD as admin and type : fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

    You should return DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (1 means disabled!)

    If not one can enable it: fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0 (of course the SSD must be capable of TRIM)

    I have windows own TRIM enabled and NEVER de-fragment my sys SSD. I have installed w7 when it RTM'ed (was available) and never had to reinstall it since then. It boots up as fast as at the first day.

    No 'maintenance' or performance tools are needed, IMHO. The only thing I ran was cleanmgr to remove old windows update backup files to get more free space.
     
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  15. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks for this. :D
     
  16. acyuta

    acyuta MDL Expert

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    I personally consider SSDs to be more reliable than hard disks.
    There are endurance tests run on SSD and basically they imply many years of service. People may be associating SSD reliability with their earlier history/some manufacturers.
    Intel, Samsung and others offer 5 year warranty on their better SSDs.
    Comparable is only WD Black.
    In fact, I restore/backup after every 2-3 days and my Intel SSD 120 still runs good even after 21 months.
    Just normal ccleaner and also joshcells uncleaner.
     
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  17. amanda

    amanda MDL Junior Member

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    Can you define "normal ccleaner" please?
     
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  19. acyuta

    acyuta MDL Expert

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    Apart from the default settings posted by acrsn, in options-advanced, I only tick mark
    hide warning...
    skip user account...
    enable windows jump...

    Rest all are unticked.
     
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