Classic Shell

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by leebSaMmY, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. leebSaMmY

    leebSaMmY MDL Member

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    I haven't decided if I want to use Classic Shell instead of the new start menu like i previously had done on Windows 8/8.1. However, if I do, is there a way to disable the new search button in the task bar?
     
  2. JohnyGS

    JohnyGS MDL Member

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    I overkill the window that opens the search button.
     
  3. Smorgan

    Smorgan Glitcher

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    You could always search for a way to kill the search button in order to not search anymore on the search button
     
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  4. charlieny100

    charlieny100 MDL Novice

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    I like the new start menu except for remote desktop. With classic shell I can do a remote reboot from the menu. I know I can type something in but always forget. I'd like to install CS but still use the windows native start button but haven't figured that out yet.
     
  5. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    RDP reboot is one of huge amount of features that makes CS mandatory.

    Anyway you can can customize the CS behavior to your liking. Say use shift+click to open it, and just click to open the stock crap.
     
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  6. Aerowinder

    Aerowinder MDL Novice

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    #6 Aerowinder, Aug 4, 2015
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    Sure, but it's not related to Classic Shell. Right click the taskbar > Search (or Cortana) > Hidden. Same thing for that task view button.

    I've been using Classic Shell for years, great app.



    In an RDP session, WinKey+X > Command Prompt (Admin) > shutdown -r

    System will reboot in 30ish seconds.
     
  7. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Hmmm, always a question of personal preferences, there's no doubt.

    Still IMHO StartIsBack(+/+) uses the most sophisticated way to provide a Start Menu, since it hooks a DLL only when the Start Menu is invoked, else there's nothing in background at all.

    Classic Shell and afaik all others need a Service or EXE running constantly. Saw 2 machines become inaccessable due to such tools.

    None of the machines using SiB ever failed for this reason :g:.
     
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  8. pf100

    pf100 MDL Addicted

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    I wish I'd seen this before I went with Classic Shell. I now have CS tweaked the way I like it and it works great and I like it, but if I have any issues I'll switch to SiB.
     
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  9. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    When it comes to messing with system files/processes (i.e. Unsigned Theme Patches, etc.) there are to ways to handle them. One can alter the files directly or hook into the process in system RAM on-the-fly without touching the files.

    That's the big difference between e.g. UltimateThemePatcher.vX and Rafaels UXStyle :cool2:. The latter does not need to fear any Windows Updates (never had problems myself over the last ~4 years since i found the version for Win 7).

    .... info to consider i assume :D.
     
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  10. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    ALT + F4 is even easier, but still having a menu right where you expect to find it, is better.

    BTW the main reason to use CS is the possibility of using the win 7 style start menu, coupled with the win95 style cascading all programs.

    AFAIK No other Start menu replacement can do this.
     
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  11. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Service approach is way better.

    If you need to use the clean widows, w/o CS, just kill the CS service and restart explorer
     
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  12. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    In my observations it's quiet vice versa :g:.

    Where should be the advantage of a constantly running service that might fail (even if you don't use the Menu at all) over a temporarily hooked dll.
     
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  13. pf100

    pf100 MDL Addicted

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    That's exactly why I use it.
     
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  14. Rock Hunter

    Rock Hunter MDL Senior Member

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    I used it with Windows 8.1 but after messing around with Windows 10 for the past year I've adjusted to the new start button and I'm not using Classic Shell with Windows 10.

     
  15. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    #15 s1ave77, Aug 4, 2015
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    StartIsBack offers that option for ages now :hmm:.

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  16. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    If the service fails nothing happens.

    The service is there just to launch CS.

    Unless Explorer is killed as well CS will say there, no matter if the service is running or not.
     
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  17. pf100

    pf100 MDL Addicted

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    Classic Shell is free though. That was a heavily weighed factor in my decision to try it first since I've never tried any start menu replacement software before yesterday.
     
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  18. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    OK, noticed different behavior here, had to re-do two machines using Classic Shell and even more nasty Start8 on the other.
     
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  19. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Even if SIB was fully in line with CS functionality (and it isn't), CS is free while SIB is paid, so CS still wins.
     
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  20. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    As my initial sentence stated, a matter of preference.

    What would be a thing that is missing in SiB in opposite to CS?
     
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