Classic Windows Update CPL on Win10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by slashing123, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. slashing123

    slashing123 MDL Novice

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    Okay so I managed to get the old classic Windows Update Control Panel CPL to run on Windows 10. I copied files for the WU control panel from Windows 8.1...which is partially why I think that it doesn't fully work. (I don't have access to a copy of the last version of Windows 10 that included the classic WU control panel.) Anyway, these files included wucltux.dll, wuwebv.dll, and their associated MUI files. I then exported every registry key related to Windows Update that I could find, and merged them into Windows 10's registry and boom, a semi-functional WU CPL. I'm sure there are better ways I could have went about this but whatever. What I'm wondering is if it is a good idea to continue to pursue this. Getting the classic update CPL back would mean we get our control over updates back, right? A notable problem I've encountered so far is that when I click check for updates it says that the Windows Update Service isn't running even though it is. Sorry I can't post screen shots since my post count is not high enough to post links or images. (Also this is my first thread on a forum so don't hate on me too much :p)
     
  2. coromonadalix

    coromonadalix MDL Senior Member

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    hum I dont think it will worth it anymore (my personal opinion it is)

    Since 14997 the old control panel and other things seems more difficult to obtain or execute, the Powershell is pushed more and more than the CMD prompt,

    We can have them back like IE: shortcut link to control.exe = old control panel style, the god mode still works, but for how long ?

    M$oft want to push us a full "touch" and "modern" interface ... i miss the old xp and w7 days.
     
  3. slashing123

    slashing123 MDL Novice

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    I suppose you are right. Microsoft seems intent on killing off everything Non-UWP, regardless of what its users want/desire/think. The question of how long it'll be before they kill stuff like CMD Prompt and Control Panel is also quite relevant. I was just looking to see if other people thought it was worthwhile. :biggrin:
     
  4. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I support Microsoft intention to do away with the classic Control Panel.
     
  5. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    I'm with Hadron-Curious on this, see no reason for control Panel and settings. :D
     
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  6. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Addicted

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    #6 Espionage724, Jan 1, 2017
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    I support they keep the classic one; a little over 4 years since the Modern UI CP came out and it still isn't anywhere near feature-complete with classic (although I guess if MS keeps stripping settings from classic, the Modern UI one will eventually match it :p)
     
  7. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    Everything will go to metro as it will work on phones better I think :D
     
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  8. SpeedDream

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    I think both options should always exist for a smooth migration, last insiders' edition have to go hit run and type in control just to change advanced power options
     
  9. remco8264

    remco8264 MDL Junior Member

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    I also believe the CP will go away soon (maybe even this year). Microsoft is busy with adding things to Settings. The last leaked build added themes. Also the Security Center and Windows Firewall seem to be integrated in the new Windows Defender app.
     
  10. dobbelina

    dobbelina MDL Senior Member

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    If you want the classic WU i'd use Windows Update Minitool.
    Then integrate it with win 10 with the Windows Update MiniTool Integrator v1.0 that's in my signature.
     
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  11. slashing123

    slashing123 MDL Novice

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    The issue I have with the UWP apps like Settings and Edge, Metro IE on Win8, is that they are nowhere near feature complete as their classic counterparts. They are striped down hack jobs that M$ passes off as the modern equivalent to their classic counterparts when in reality they aren't. Another thing is that windows has always been made to be as backward compatible with older Windows programs as possible. If they start killing off core parts of the os like Windows Explorer, Control Panel , and Command Prompt for their UWP versions, that could cripple backwards compatibility.
     
  12. Yasser Da Silva

    Yasser Da Silva MDL Addicted

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    IMHO i think that having the old control Panel is still needed until the settings is fully functional
    The windows Update CPL isn't the problem
    I hope that someone manages to get back the whole thing Back (all the Control Panel)
     
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  13. hb860

    hb860 MDL Addicted

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    Yep, Windows Update MiniTool is a great replacement for the classic applet.
    Unfortunately, there is no reason to backport the classic applet to the old Control Panel.
    The classic Control Panel will be removed completely very soon.
     
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  14. maestrosir

    maestrosir MDL Junior Member

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    They should keep the classic control panel
    Many users hate Settings. What is the reason to use settings when you have keyboard and mouse? Control Panel is much better for classic computers.
     
  15. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    I can never find anything in Settings (never have such problem in CP...)
     
  16. Mavericks Choice

    Mavericks Choice MDL Addicted

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    A great alternative is "God Mode" & works in Win 10
     
  17. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Small fix to the sentence. ;)
     
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  19. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Addicted

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    Microsoft has shown plenty of times that they don't care what users hate :p

    Classic control panel worked (well enough). Then Modern UI settings came around and years later it still isn't close to classic control panel's functionality. It won't surprise me to see the classic control panel gone in a future update, but the Modern UI one will likely never be feature-complete in-comparison. God Mode works still as well, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that also mysteriously gone at some point, or even disabled to anyone not using Pro or Enterprise.

    Modern UI is the (unfortunate) future Windows is still moving towards.
     
  20. Hadron-Curious

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