Cleaning out my Win 7 ISOs downloaded over a while :) Do advise/ comment

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  1. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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  3. EFA11

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    the DigitalRiver files where the same as MSDN files, hash identical. Names where changed to protect the innocent lol

    If you changed your iso's at all, yes the iso will have a different hash. Although you did the changes so they are safe for you, they are not authentic iso's anymore.

    These are the DigitalRiver files I archived with checksums for each.

    22df3e5a80f8dbf014c2776a01b1cd9f24d83233 *X17-24208.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x86 English
    b4821f46a171708f5f8f8a0ef48fc16529437961 *X17-24209.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x64 English
    b06c2b2659f27c9333d38d8a7644e68dca5492c2 *X17-24268.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Chinese
    a4e4e666a463c367ae550f75730e379ab36ed489 *X17-24269.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Chinese
    cbcd048f766c46a4355be6fd3c6fb45cbc643e28 *X17-24276.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Danish
    ace8f5ae11536ebfcea316aaf9da12539b0391ec *X17-24277.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Danish
    8215559c11e2e036b245e6ddf1b102bcd69f2385 *X17-24278.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Dutch
    fb54bc10a57bc5afd502a07dfc68aa656ba42063 *X17-24279.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Dutch
    917a542b0541054bb9c2a06a11a46aed6943856b *X17-24280.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 English
    5ed2584110e03f498db4458ba9fafd5a7ef602ed *X17-24281.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 English
    48d38d79882c5fa4818f5a8558feef44faa39dab *X17-24284.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Finnish
    f7631a9c0f9b62ff18649b66be9d57381c61fc7f *X17-24285.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Finnish
    f73a0f4b2e1e12a254198c97f594d2b869157340 *X17-24286.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 French
    9de7797ca5cdc17e34aa7c4f4fe6a1af7b3a4dd4 *X17-24287.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 French
    f34712e7dba016fc57f684c11bc5e97d8f3a11d2 *X17-24288.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 German
    040619ae244bb3f10e385cee6330f64b29b656bf *X17-24289.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 German
    d2b71feaa43da10b5ca8bb2bb7b39b1dc3eb86a1 *X17-24296.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Italian
    16a712a46f7abe8568dcef9ad38083f5e473534c *X17-24297.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Italian
    f20b6ba5fc2c625cd6ea7ae7220df6676f092dc0 *X17-24302.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Norwegian
    97d541125f91ce43fc8228f17f460a0214c9a993 *X17-24303.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Norwegian
    a6803172032b3a67db97ce573e154acf0cb3f97b *X17-24306.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Portuguese
    a9181b06013f371bb776428f9656b7b744859b3c *X17-24307.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Portuguese
    45bade6d3bdea971930954e72e7048e5dd5face7 *X17-24318.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Spanish
    3c8794ff13dca9dc184175db6be29efd35f05dc9 *X17-24319.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Spanish
    5a043d8bdb9b62d0422f33b443d9ea66d57e9536 *X17-24320.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Swedish
    aa8d81265162dc186497fd969c6985116a7fdfe2 *X17-24321.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Swedish
    af374f90af1f43f8c95085a89e057afa219116c0 *X17-24328.ISO Windows 7 Professional K x86 Korean
    bc533343eb071414e63eadfc9958983d9e6e547c *X17-24329.ISO Windows 7 Professional K x64 Korean
    92c1ada4ff09c76ec2f1974940624cab7f822f62 *X17-24394.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x86 English
    1693b6cb50b90d96fc3c04e4329604feba88cd51 *X17-24395.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x64 English
    Windows 7 SP1 Media Refresh:
    80583a3cc93230059bca69de8c0ffe0e01b353d4 *X17-58857.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Spanish
    c3a2e4922cfb9a0df06f338e82907b5f85757196 *X17-58859.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Spanish
    cfe1a580844315b84a7212f1caeb84fdeea49ce1 *X17-58866.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Spanish
    b9e03ddaaba98cd1102c59366238ec8d49db7493 *X17-58868.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Spanish
    2cfb116dbaade8638a00a314a1b557270bc43cad *X17-58871.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Spanish
    73f3f44ea8981ddeeadf76c8057e76f1c350921f *X17-58874.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Spanish
    5c1d3e8cfdc70dc44dc5ac1cb89cacc3c515b1e8 *X17-58877.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Spanish
    af4b835557b5f15b574a3a643eecaf922fc1236c *X17-58879.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Spanish
    6071b4553fcf0ea53d589a846b5ae76743dd68fc *X17-58996.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x86 English
    6c9058389c1e2e5122b7c933275f963edf1c07b9 *X17-58997.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x64 English
    82b93828e709a7e9886ea45a0c97b9ab667f118e *X17-59007.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x86 French
    7f3e41579c3404ba86d4a53ec13f69844f2473be *X17-59009.ISO Windows 7 Home Premium x64 French
    d89937df3a9bc2ec1a1486195fd308cd3dade928 *X17-59183.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 English
    0bcfc54019ea175b1ee51f6d2b207a3d14dd2b58 *X17-59186.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 English
    9f3b20a28a3caa6305fb19368af47828435001c7 *X17-59192.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Finnish
    9c3799057e6025a108fb3e96a0c5ff228d4702ca *X17-59194.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Finnish
    ce8adfd30a9e8f33b47c11579b4e6d1d445382fb *X17-59195.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 French
    f9f0512f7ca5e2cd1502a41f6e88d80f4655bbcd *X17-59197.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 French
    e35566b2668ea67201b891f517a2c31f8c6baf62 *X17-59212.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Italian
    c4c4a6493e2c45649baf75a045ca922db0c7ca58 *X17-59215.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Italian
    2a052522bf16e4b5074ef645d819e1e6eaac80b1 *X17-59229.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Norwegian
    a4fd9856077028b518f48a2185f53524ebeadba9 *X17-59231.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Norwegian
    252d823854eaa70e764664abc0ffd0eae402531b *X17-59233.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Dutch
    036768613b50f51e21c661be332e4b3560262429 *X17-59236.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Dutch
    bb419dbefff9283d7f4d3ac0a86299074bfac94d *X17-59246.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Portuguese
    e1fb2adfecd701c34c019a95b708a607c03c4c58 *X17-59247.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Portuguese
    26523c64f8bd7369f1a03338efefb4ce892694c0 *X17-59271.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Swedish
    3bb7b984ee4a37ee9a45b5453c1e1da2ce3f9a85 *X17-59273.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Swedish
    92888fbcfd120cb932f46375eb216cef8e5f9047 *X17-59295.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Chinese
    683810f804fdcff58e9b5c9ce7df8af5cc73b019 *X17-59297.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Chinese
    0acefd380a90ab2d9cecf985d3b54da5b6b115e2 *X17-59299.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Korean
    575af2a4a6125b6e9f69f80dfd2184d9684d9548 *X17-59300.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Korean
    0742cfcaf5a2551561d19d3b5966a17bace5af75 *X17-59318.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Danish
    fa9f7f7948315ae3767fdd909ca344be7ea549d8 *X17-59320.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Danish
    6c5851fd0ad7f34c201e56573f81197721e032b5 *X17-59323.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 German
    a573569b61cc6b172a828a77e04caf3ddc710ed7 *X17-59327.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 German
    fda90230e29052b7b20ca408e961c5d2743041f1 *X17-59335.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 English
    59f942bc69ca6d8ab25a3b63a018d86d8acee78b *X17-59337.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 English
    05c0fe92841034e1f756fcf840fe49bdac94a9d4 *X17-59344.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Finnish
    52947edeac6b8d0e75687d1aba8bea958501a1b4 *X17-59346.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Finnish
    ee39e56f6c51b1cc8279fe8ebedc6b5d32238b3c *X17-59348.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 French
    0f0b4a1de5e573a4d9247d9c8b7777006b4d2778 *X17-59351.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 French
    da3d9bf302d9dd93a40710f7580b96aeeb3d72f2 *X17-59364.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Italian
    944a36b139da2e0b675be47a5eb792b73c5fb40e *X17-59366.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Italian
    be85c0b6ad39f8c7af86700f64f7e4abf478026a *X17-59380.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Norwegian
    ebe07009daf8da4229b90eaeb1ee4a978e9365b8 *X17-59383.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Norwegian
    805c9795e808ad976520728c69bc80b4061e2fd5 *X17-59384.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Dutch
    10d0f677b453bea9e0247523b2ae6e1614effd6e *X17-59387.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Dutch
    05f9ae4622e5bf29fbb06ef635e0ee7846c0da71 *X17-59395.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Portuguese
    22867622d0d7664125439f6f2405edb70f571617 *X17-59398.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Portuguese
    6a4dedc174f7a10ffdf73b01002c0568dc9341f3 *X17-59418.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x86 Swedish
    2bb319009348dfad62b79d20b871a2396decb3b2 *X17-59424.ISO Windows 7 Professional N x64 Swedish
    65fce0f445d9bf7e78e43f17e441e08c63722657 *X17-59463.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x86 English
    36ae90defbad9d9539e649b193ae573b77a71c83 *X17-59465.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x64 English
    6a4d873e82698f7bf157c67a69c2db9bce6c769e *X17-59477.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x86 French
    5370bb44f497e1b19114c7cf70f5cdef9f3a2582 *X17-59479.ISO Windows 7 Ultimate x64 French
    53e38f7420945feda9e7ff7ac6556b937902ff54 *X17-59883.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 Danish
    39d2e2924e186124ea44d2453069b34ef18ea45e *X17-59885.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 Danish
    3ea8bf4f3f9524aebfcb562bc41a248f5a6780e0 *X17-59886.ISO Windows 7 Professional x64 German
    b64965c5a2e652e5da4659112fb7478f151d7790 *X17-59891.ISO Windows 7 Professional x86 German
     
  4. Durga

    Durga MDL Novice

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    Palladin, I recently downloaded the latest Wn7 Pro and Win7 Ultimate x64 ISO's from threads on MDL. I verified them using SHA1 hashes posted at the MSDN website. The files verified just fine.

    Then, like you, I ran eicfg Removal Utility version 1.2.1 on them (to patch them into 'universal' install ISO's). Once that was done I tested the hashes compared to the MSDN hashes and, of course, the hashes no longer matched.

    Then I again ran eicfg Removal Utility on the ISO's I had just turned into universal install ISO's. Of course on this round of running eicfg Removal Utility on those ISO's the utility un-did the change that it made to the ISO's on the first occasion. Then I did a hash check on the 'un-done' ISO's again and they were back to being in agreement with the hashes posted at MSDN.

    Point is the eicfg Removal Utility can apply its patch to the ISO's but if you run it against the ISO a second time then the patch gets undone and the hash value of the ISO returns to the original value it had before the patch was ever applied. So you have a quick way of getting back to the original files you had before you ever patched them. Test it for yourself and see.

    Hope this helps.
     
  5. ihtisham301

    ihtisham301 MDL Novice

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    Thanks Durga. Let's see if i can make it work (Y) :tea:
     
  6. Durga

    Durga MDL Novice

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    #7 Durga, Jul 13, 2015
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    crashnburn, the easiest way out of your dilemma is to forget about the ISO's you have just now and start from the beginning - but only download ISO's that you can verify from hashes provided my Microsoft themselves. After all if I had the technical knowledge of how to do so (I don't) I could create an ISO purporting to be a legitimate Microsoft ISO and provide a hash I generate myself to prove that the ISO was genuine (which of course it itsn't because I tampered with it). The only way you can really check is if you are using hashes published on a Microsoft website.

    I'm not allowed to post links on MDL yet as I don't have enough posts to allow me to do so but search for the following thread on MDL: "Windows 7 SP1 Media Refresh - Torrent Download Links". (That thread is a Sticky so it's right at the top of the Windows 7 forum pages - easy to find.)

    In that thead you will see another link titled "More download links might be found here". Click on that link and you go to a webpage which has the word "mirror" at the very start at of the webpage address. If you scroll to the extreme right-hand side of that webpage you will see that for most of the ISO's offered for download there is a green colored link that is a number. If you click on one of those green colored links it will take you to a MSDN webpage where the Microsoft SHA1 hash for that ISO is displayed (you have to click on the 'Details' option to get the hash to display).

    So, in this way you can get ISO's that you can verify as being completely genuine because you are checking against Microsoft's own hashes posted on one of Microsoft's own webpages.

    As to what is the latest and greatest ISO to download? Well, I'm not an expert but an ISO that has the title in the form: "en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso".

    As far as I know "sp1" means it's at Service Pack 1 level, and the "u" means that is what is called the media refresh edition. And as far as I know (as at the date of this post) that 'media refresh edition' is the highest release of (in this example) Windows 7 Ultimate. (If I've got any of that wrong then I'd be pleased if someone would post and say why it is wrong.)

    Hope this helps.
     
  7. EFA11

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    just one correction, it is impossible to create a file with a SHA1 that is not authentic. SHA1 is a SHA1 period, however an MD5 CAN be changed to portray something it isn't. If the SHA1 (Or Sha2->256 or higher) is the same as the MSDN value, it is guaranteed to be legit. The members here at MDL are really good, but we (or anyone) cannot spoof a SHA1 YET :D
     
  8. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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  9. EFA11

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    7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso 3,224,686,592326327cc2ff9f05379f5058c41be6bc5e004baa7

    that is one of the original without SP1. "en_windows_7_ultimate_x64_dvd_x15-65922.iso"
     
  10. Durga

    Durga MDL Novice

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    #11 Durga, Jul 13, 2015
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    Oh, EFA11. I see how you're reading my previous post. Spoofing a SHA1 wasn't what I was saying/suggesting at all (though I'm surprised to learn that an MD5 can be spoofed).

    Maybe I can explain what I was trying to say in a different way:

    1) I have a legitimate ISO.
    2) I alter it, maybe bundling in some malware.
    3) I generate a SHA1 for the ISO I've altered.
    4) I put the ISO on a torrent site and include with it the SHA1 hash that I generated myself.
    5) In the readme for the ISO torrent I then claim (really I'm just implying) that checking the ISO against the SHA1 that I've provided proves that the ISO is legitimate. (See, this is sleight of hand.)
    6) People 'check' the file against the SHA1 I provided and think, "Oh well, that's fine. It must be okay." (Which is of course, dumb.)

    It's a problem I had with some of the offerings on MDL. Links to ISO's are provided, though the naming scheme for the ISO is different from that provided by Microsoft, so you might not be able to find that ISO at a Microsoft website. Along with the links a SHA1 hash is provided - but with no way to check the validity of that hash against a hash provided by Microsoft for the same (though renamed) ISO. (So this is again, a situation in which sleight of hand could be being played.) There is no way that an ISO can be taken to be genuine unless you can check it against a hash you got directly from Microsoft.

    Hope that makes it clearer what I was trying to say in the first instance - though I can see how it can be misread.
     
  11. EFA11

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    yes that is clearer, and why we always suggest check any files hash against MS hash. Names are not important but make it easier when they are left original, certainly.
     
  12. Durga

    Durga MDL Novice

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    Maybe it's just sheer curiosity and following the scientific method that experiments to be valid have to give reproducible results. That's why I downloaded two - to see if what is claimed actually works with 'Pro' and 'Ultimate' install DVD's. Sheer curiosity on my part and doesn't seem pointless to me. It's also why I experimented with applying the patch then undoing it and checking all the results against Microsoft hashes - just to see what happens - and I learn something in the process.
     
  13. CaptainKirk1966

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    It's pretty well known that various editions differ only in the ei.cfg file. One genuine MSDN iso, any edition, is all that anybody really needs to download and keep in their archives. Well, maybe two MSDN iso's, one x86 and one x64.
     
  14. Palladin

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    #16 Palladin, Jul 13, 2015
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    Great tip, and of course it's right in the readme, but I missed it or wasn't paying attention.

    So I made some copies of the files that I had downloaded from Hei-doc.net last year, and then re-ran the eicfg Removal Tool against them. I got the message that the ei.cfg file was restored, but when I checked the hashes they didn't match the untouched iso's. :(

    Here's what I came up with:
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    0BCFC54019EA175B1EE51F6D2B207A3D14DD2B58  from Archive.org
    0bcfc54019ea175b1ee51f6d2b207a3d14dd2b58  EN_WINDOWS_7_PROFESSIONAL_WITH_SP1_X64_DVD_U_676939.ISO  (from EFA11)
    BFD9CDBD3703E418D09B08DFFF0A30EB64F29E78  Win-7-Pro-64bit-X17-59186.iso  (from Hei-doc.net)
    AA11DE2522E4FAFD1AB899F696DEB3DF7C20DDC8  ** after eicfg Removal Tool re-ran  (from Hei-doc.net)
    
    
    D89937DF3A9BC2EC1A1486195FD308CD3DADE928  from Archive.org
    d89937df3a9bc2ec1a1486195fd308cd3dade928  EN_WINDOWS_7_PROFESSIONAL_WITH_SP1_X86_DVD_U_677056.ISO  (from EFA11)
    13815424F65BAD895D9091BF9BD477A8B790CC6E  Win-7-Pro-32bit-X17-59183.iso  (from Hei-doc.net)
    CDF11F9B61686A3FA54D8E4BE4704D1176218F71  ** after eicfg Removal Tool re-ran  (from Hei-doc.net)
    
    Just to be sure, I ran the utility again, and it said the ei.cfg file was removed. Then I calculated the hash on that file, and it matched my original hash. Then ran the utility again, and it said the ei.cfg file was removed and when I calculated the hash, it was identical to the first go-round, that didn't match the untouched version hash.

    But at this point I'm stumped, but glad I wasted the bandwidth to download the untouched versions from Archive.org. :p

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  15. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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    #17 crashnburn, Jul 14, 2015
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    Haha - Interesting experiments :)

    So please guide/ point me to the following:

    - Latest/ release of Win 7 x Sp1 + Max Updates - (32 and 64.. names of files and links would help)
    PS: I'd like to keep a copy of Win 7 (non SP1) also.. As some older laptops I had Sp1 had trouble in a Fresh Install and would freeze in between.

    - I guess I can keep the untouched ones and MAKE Multi in One or Ult > Pro by just playing with EI files when/ if I want to?
    - Do point me to / share the tools if any special ones exist beyond the EI tool mentioned in the thread before.
    If its not on the Stickies here and you think its worth keeping for such "mods" please link/ point me to it.
    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/forums/34-MDL-Projects-and-Applications
     
  16. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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  17. EFA11

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    #19 EFA11, Jul 14, 2015
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    yes the 7600 file is non-SP1 x64 and

    en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso is the same file as X17-59465.iso
    The SHA1: 36AE90DEFBAD9D9539E649B193AE573B77A71C83 wont lie to you :D

    -ed-
    your red text above is an SP1 without the refresh "U" I believe.
     
  18. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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    Ah.. the folder says WZT - Who is this by? An MDL fellow or a TPB pirate?