Compatibility issues of Windows 8,8.1 apps in Windows 10

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  1. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    #1 cuteee, Feb 7, 2016
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  2. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    because MS dont care:rolleyes:
     
  3. lobo11

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    pauldamo MDL Senior Member

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    #4 pauldamo, Feb 7, 2016
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    i noticed the 7.1 software for my headphones, plantronics gc780-788 installer release 5,which was an update for win 8.1 doesn't install even in different compatibility modes, you have to unpack it,then go to where it unzipped in programs and use the installer for win 8,the win 8.1 installer doesn't work on win 10,if you already have the program installed and then upgraded to 10 or upgraded each insider build 7.1 surround works.
     
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  6. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Not all, if not just a few, apps from the Store are developed by Microsoft!

    If you've the proof, that sudden apps, which are nor work on Windows 10 anymore, are developed in full from MS, your complaint is really valid, while it's not, the such apps are developed by any 3.party!

    And also applies for Driver problems!!
     
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  7. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    You are right but is it not the case that 3.party developpers are always behind ! It is a sad story as MS keep changing the code in their OS and with that 3.party software get broken ! It's like playing a game with friends and they change the rules over and over again just to gain some weird profit from it. To me it is just acting crazy to promote and have an edge on their own software MS always have been ***holes like that. :eek:
     
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  8. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    The fact is, Windows 10 is still in havey development and 'unfinished' in many, many means! That's something what developers of 3.party Add-On software need to take in account!

    For sure, it's always the end user how get the trouble and will be unable most of the time to solve such problems! Just from an ojective and fair point of view, it's always the developer of the application, if those ending up with problems and errors, and not the developer of the OS, that apps aree installed and running on, with the exception that the OS developer is responsible if he's also the developer of that Add-On Application!

    And, what happen, if Microsoft has developed some application, stooped short with further development of it and sold it to 3.party. The 3.party buyer now change something in that apps and end's up with problem! Who's fault is that? Everybody will cry and point to Microsoft, just, is it the fault of Microsoft? I don't think so! Maybe such changes were done with nest intention of the new owner, question still remains: Whos fault?!

    One thing is sure, Microsoft need to keep changing it's codes as long as that codes didn't works correctly! And even if there would be a bad effect on Microsoft's own apps, MS may could not handle that at the same time, priority will be all times in regard to the OS, and that must be just that!
     
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  9. giantaxe

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    yet they fully explained why that is, Windows 8/8.1, Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT all had different codebases which gave many developers a lot of headaches because each platform was different. they reason they changed all this is so that all 3 platforms now share 1 and the same code base. which also resulted in the old store being depreciated along with most of the old windows 8/8.1 apps. they made it clear from the beginning that it would all have to be moved over to the new windows 10 universal app program.

    So if your Windows 8/8.1 app doesn't work on windows 10 because of this, that fault does not lie with Microsoft, its with the maintainer of that 3rd part app who has to migrate his app to the new platform. ofc they do not have to if they do not want to move over to a new platform but at the start of windows 10 with its firsts builds which came around the same time as the visual studio 2015 previews they started notifying devs about all the changes.
     
  10. DavidinCT

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    #10 DavidinCT, Feb 8, 2016
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    Correction: Because MS does not care ANYMORE


    That used to be one of the best features of Windows, running old applications. You could take a Windows 3.1 or 95 application and install it on Windows 7 x32 and it would run, even a Windows 95 answering machine program that used TAPI still worked under Windows 7. I still run a old 95 Monopoly game time to time.

    Although Windows 10 is far from being FINISHED, I don't see them getting oddball 8.1 apps running, or even giving a lot towards old XP/7 applications.

    Every version of Windows had parts so they could be compatible with older programs, Why is 10 any different ?
     
  11. giantaxe

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    Because desktop apps are NOT the same as store apps, they are 2 entirely different platforms.

    non-developers don't really know this but the windows store app platform is not the same as plain desktop applications. Desktop applications have full access to the .net framework whereas the windows store app platform has a smaller "universal" .net framework which does not have all the features from the full .net framework.

    simple: you cannot compare windows applications with windows store applications. that's why bringing anything lower then W8 into a store application discussion is completely pointless because win 7 and before didn't have this platform to begin with.