Can you explain to me a bit about KMS. I actually read about it.. it is for Volume licensing it makes it easier for Microsoft to use this vs an old way that can really piss of customers. But I want to know more! But my question is 1.) how do code/hackers/piraters use this for pirating exploits? and inst 'the only way piraters now a days make activation's is through KMS? 2.)Using keys doesn't work any more? Also i got an Asus g75 from micro-center and what happened to one of my PC's was it had win 8 legit! But it end up having to re install and used kms (cause it just works) .... now I am like on 8.1 pro unactivated (to blog about it and try) but now I am like oh shiiiizz it won't activate so let me downgrade then upgrade to 8.1 thru the app store. But the thing is I READ that the free store upgrade won't work with KMS (MS TOOLKIT) SO the only way is to what ??? > 1.)Go back legit (non pro ugh) and then get my key and upgrade.. but how do I retrieve it from my bios (i am sure it was oem I still have my uefi and rec partition) . 2.) Or can I call M$/ASUS and get a copy of my key or guide to doing it. 3.) Just be patient and wait for a new KMS or activation hack cause there wil def be another one. I'd like to do it legit but since I am a tech dude and I did BUY the DAMN thing with it on here then I do not mind using a 2nd method if ya know what I mean .. I did/do own a 8 key which could have easlily been upgraded to 8.1 through store (just not pro Either way iIOWN a key cause I bought this laptop and spend $1G+ and there gotta be a way.. BTW isn't toolkit only KMS orr? Do you think there will be another KMS v6?