CPU incompatible - How to install on old computer without NX support?

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by roga, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    Win10 requires a CPU with NX support. Mine does not have.
    There is a Win8 thread to bypass this CPU incompatibility error. I cannot find one for Win10.
    Anyone know how to install Win10 on old computer with no NX CPU?
    A vid on youtube claims can do it on Win10 Enterprise. He said to install a program and disable antivirus when doing it, I scare it is a virus!
     
  2. joluboga

    joluboga MDL Member

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    Just install the 32-bit version and you're good to go.
     
  3. AcuraTML

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    Not worth it go to eBay or online around your town and pick up something good and go from there...

    Its not worth the time to do this add that and blaa blaa blaaa
     
  4. LiteOS

    LiteOS MDL Expert

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    try to deploy it with dism and with bcdboot bulid bcd store for booting
    GL
     
  5. Sakuya

    Sakuya MDL Junior Member

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    How old of a CPU are we talking about here? Even the 10 year old P4 630 has 64bit and Execute Disable Bit support.
     
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  6. odiebugs1

    odiebugs1 MDL Expert

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    You can get a Haswell CPU, motherboard and PSU for 150.00 and have the second newest chipset running. Just a FYI, maybe you can't afford it but just wanted to point it out.
     
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  7. odiebugs1

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    From my understanding, which is nothing compared to most MDL members, windows is compiled with PAE, NX, SSE2, because of microcode, windows won't allow it when there's no NX which would allow a program to execute code against the CPU.
     
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  8. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    #11 roga, Aug 24, 2015
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    I have an old laptop I want to continue using, it is not a desktop I can change motherboard and cpu easily.
    I dont want to buy a new laptop yet because I think I am infected with a firmware malware, which will ruin a brand new laptop if it spreads to there. It is impossible to detect and remove firmware malware (look up BadUsb and Equation Group and you will know what I mean).
    The CPU I am talking about is 10 years old. I got Windows 8.1 installed on it only by disabling NX and PAE, I want to do the same for Windows 10. Should be possible when someone makes a install.wim patcher for it.
    The youtube vid I talked about does not work for Win10 RTM, it only works for Win10 Tech Preview, which is useless now.
     
  9. coromonadalix

    coromonadalix MDL Senior Member

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    You know you will someday hit a wall ???

    I did managed in the past to put windows 7 on an old Clevo d9t 2005 laptop who was never meant to, it was running perfect with modded inf drivers.

    I was hit by a virus, i did not have any backup, i could not get the laptop running good as before.

    There's a limit now to what we can do, since we are no coder or decompile windows ressources.
     
  10. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    That is what people said about the Windows 8 cpu bypass on MDL at first, but nothing horrible happened after use. The mod is not a driver mod, it makes windows bypass CPU checking, is all. Same thing can be done for Win10.
    Can stop virus with antivirus software and firewall.
     
  11. odiebugs1

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    You need to contact all the anti-virus companies and tell them to get rid of their software malware data base, there's no need to have one as according to you, all virus's can be stopped without being found and added to the base. Wild virus's have never affected any computers. :laie:
     
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  12. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    I did not say it stops ALL virus. I think he got the virus not from the modded driver which he was alluding to, he would have got the virus anyway without the mod. Having an anti virus software will stop virus more than not using the modded driver.
    Some firmware malware cannot be stopped I know. But if it happens to you it will happen to you anyway, does not matter if you modded the computer to bypass CPU checks or not.
     
  13. odiebugs1

    odiebugs1 MDL Expert

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    Do you have any proof that Intel's security is useless and they added it for no reason. Not being rude, but can you post a virus that has attacked Haswell and the security of the CPU failed.
     
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  14. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    ? Disabling NX and PAE checking does not affect security, it might affect performance but how does that make you more vulnerable to an attack
    I am no virus expert, I have no examples only logic
     
  15. odiebugs1

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    #18 odiebugs1, Aug 24, 2015
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    @ Cor. Just to point out there's no such thing as a INF driver.

    Here you talk about CPU bypass of the NX, then go on to say it can be done to win 10 and then how a anti-virus and firewall will help.

    Now you post that NX has nothing to do with security.

    Excellent post thanks for pointing all this out.
     
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  16. blackdew

    blackdew MDL Novice

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    NX stands for No Execute which is a bit set on memory when allocating it which allows the CPU to read that memory but not execute it.

    Usually when an executable is loaded and linked with all it's DLLs - all executable sections are marked read only and executable. Data sections and allocated heap regions are marked read/write + no execute (NX).

    This prevents all possible attacks that rely on injecting executable code into a running program - stack smashes, (some kinds of) buffer overflows, etc.

    PAE (Page Address Extension) is an extension for processors running in 32 bit mode, to allow them to use more than 4GB of physical memory. It's also required for enabling NX support on 32 bit CPUs.
     
  17. T-S

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    #20 T-S, Aug 24, 2015
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    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/37517-Q-Win-8-bypass-PAE-NX-SSE2-check

    That's the thread dedicated to win8/win8.1, there you can find a lot of infos/and workaround about your problem, some of the patch may work on W10.

    If they don't, you have to wait until someone ports them to W10.

    For the record the last windows that doesn't checks for thahose CPU features is Win8 Developer Preview (build 8102)
     
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