[DISCUSSION] Installing and booting Windows from ReFS

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by PolidelticusFire, Jan 26, 2023.

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Will You Migrate To ReFS As Soon As It Becomes Available In The Dev Channel?

  1. Yes. I think it's time we finally moved on from the aging NTFS.

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  2. No. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

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  1. Chronidus

    Chronidus MDL Junior Member

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  2. atgpud2003

    atgpud2003 MDL Addicted

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    I better stick with NTFS because it more standard of all software and OS'es to able read and write (Apple - need add on 3rd party allow to write NTFS)

    ATGPUD2003
     
  3. WindowsGeek

    WindowsGeek MDL Expert

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    Great info REFS does have a lot of benefits thanx for the info.
     
  4. nodnar

    nodnar MDL Expert

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    had to google that; i had never even heard of it, lol. sounds like m$ is inventing another square wheel for us..;)
     
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  5. iota

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    btw, i decided not to vote. i think there should be some kind of middle option, like "i will adapt refs when it hits stable". or maybe "i will adapt refs when compatibility is better". or many.
     
  6. MrNico98

    MrNico98 MDL Junior Member

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    Hello everyone, does anyone know how to enable ReFS in bootwim?
     
  7. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    refs are only for data ,

    for bootable wim or disk drive like C

    refs not works
     
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    #31 maur0, Feb 3, 2024
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  11. Hubstratter2069EN

    Hubstratter2069EN MDL Member

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    ReFS came out in Server 2012 (known by the codename Protogon...)
    Testing right now on VMWare with W11 Enterprise 25H2. Main system drive formatted to ReFS.

    Everything seems to work except for system restore (throws out a weird error code).

    Trying to upgrade to the latest Canary Channel build to see if in-place upgrades from build-to-build are supported...

    VM feels a bit more sluggish and RAM usage is a bit higher.

    Other than that all seems to work as expected.
     
  12. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Expert

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    How did you install to ReFS? I'm thinking Shift F10 at the partitioning step, diskpart to create a partition formatted ReFS, then install?

    I have UEFI and tried something like that for a:64k on NTFS (convert gpt, created efi size 500, rest NTFS); it worked on 10 21H2 LTSC, but 25H2's installer had an error.
     
  13. tsailion

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    @Espionage724 I install W11 24h2 on ReFS using DISM /Apply-Image. You need to create required partitions first. You can search for 'GPT partitions' and 'Capture and apply Windows image' on learn dot microsoft dot com.
     
  14. tsailion

    tsailion MDL Novice

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    Hello. So I tried 24h2 on ReFS and here are some limitations that I encounter.

    1. System restore is not available.

    2. RAM usage can creep up unlike ntfs, you need to look for 'fix heavy memory usage in refs' on learn dot microsoft dot com. It's basically adding some registry keys.

    3. You cannot resize ReFS partition.

    4. I tried to perform DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanUp and it always fail. Tried this offline and also failed. I suspect this will cause Windows footprint to balloon with each monthly update.
     
  15. maur0

    maur0 MDL Senior Member

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    any .reg that applies to boot.wim that changes from NTFS to reFS when creating partitions etc. does it already create them in refs?
     
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  16. maur0

    maur0 MDL Senior Member

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    test this comand

    dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
     
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