Soon I guess, as those will be the initial test builds of Windows 12 which will be released next year.
This is how it could be soon:- Canary: 27xxx or 28xxx builds - Win11 or 12 v25H2, who knows what the future might bring. Dev: 262xx builds Beta: 26120.xxx builds - which replaces 22635 as those builds will be retired. Release Preview and Retail: 26100.xxx
Why is it that people keep thinking that the canary channel will result in Windows 12? Has there been any world from Microsoft, that would indicate a Win12 being in the making? Win11 came along, due to changed hardware requirements and a new UI. There would be no reason for them to release 25H2 as Windows 12, from how things look right now.
Looking at the paint drying is still more interesting than discussing of hypotetical build numbers, and pointless branding. What about discussing of features rather than numbers?
MS want to hurry and release 24/2 and forget about it and move on to Win 12 just like Windows 8 they put it away and brought us Win10
Thanks. I thought it's raining too much over at Redmond, but apparently msfg just hates windows 11 as much as we do.
Didn't they first want to release Windows 12, but it got canceled as their plans changed when restructuring their teams?
Wharever thei call the non beta version of Win11, I'm patiently waiting for the next big thing... I bet they will launch something Linux based, that will run a Win32 compatibility layer, something like a WINE on steroids and/or a LSW (Linux subsystem for Windows), so they can fire or move elsewhere all the kernel people, and focus the company where the money come from nowadays. Everything points in that direction. WSL GUI is the only thing that gets real improvements lately, MS has its own distro (Mariner), IE went the way of the Dodo, EDGE, Powershell, alot of .net things runs on linux, Azure is based on a lot of Linux things... Just connect the dots...
I can imagine they would have to deal with massive compatibility problems galore, given the tons and tons of software not coded for meeting good coding practices*. Can already hear the battle cry from Redmont: "Shim, Shim!" Ultimately, they want to do what Apple does - moving onto their own hardware, locking people in. However, what they seem to f*cking forget: The PC platform is not like Apple, it's open. Should they ever discontinue the Wintel platform, then maybe Linux can fill the gap. *not to mention it's often Closed Source commercial sh*t for the quick buck
I think that if it was that easy they already did. But given how far Proton (w/o any access to Windows sources) has already gone, I think that for MS people (who have the sources available) getting a layer that wouldn't break more things than Vista broke over XP, is far from being an impossible task. After all is already plenty of older things that runs better in Wine than in Win8/10/11.
IMHO, Win11 24H2, given how different it is from 22H2/23H2, was indeed supposed to be Windows 12 v24H2. It has a slew of changes which will be presented in May 20 and those will trickle down to testers via the Dev Channel. I expect some UI/UX design changes too. You see, this time around they actually compiled the entire OS to require CPUs with a newer ISA. Its clear Germanium was meant to be something else. Mark my words: In 2025, we will be hearing about Windows 11's successor (maybe sooner?). I am sure at this point Win11, marketing wise, is a huge fiasco for Microsoft. They are very likely working on a replacement.
Where do people get these crazy ideas from? Microsoft wouldn't gain anything by throwing away the NT kernel and subsystems, only a lot of new work, to try and retrofit it to work with the large codebase on top. It isn't just a question about taking the linux kernel, a desktop environment, and then throw Wine on top of it - they would have to have 100% compatibility with all the software released since Windows 95. That is a huge amount of work, and if done, wouldn't give them any advantage over what they have now. So if we follow the money - is there a business case for using all those resources, and what would the gain be?
You know, there are people who still have a working brain, albeit isn't not trendy to use it nowadays A lot of work for sure (not sure if "NEW" is applicable) . A lot of simplification in the future as well. It's called investment. I used the term Wine to talk simply, obviously I'm talking of something way better, given MS has all the source, documentation, old people and so on. Perhaps the same objection can be made for the reverse direction. WSL1 seemed something that hardly would work, but I use it in production since the day one. That work, If done (likely they are at 2/3 or 3/4 of it), would reduce or eliminate all kernel the work, no dealing with 512 cores when they arrive, no dealing with Medium cores (if and when Intel add them to their big/little cores no big hassle (if and when) they have to adapt windows to a new architecture (say Longsoon) if smf when they became common. All this work will be done by the Linux "community", which nowadays means AMD, Intel, Google, ARM, Facebook and so on (practically everyone except Apple), that list includes obviously also MS itself which is one of the largest contributors of the Linux kernel, and this is true at least since a decade. That's exactly the point, following the money. In the modern (rotten) capitalism each time you fire some manwork, you have an instant return by growing value of the stock. Sad surely, true surely as well.