DISCUSSION: Windows 10 IoT

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  1. Tito

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    #3 Smorgan, Nov 16, 2014
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    I've looked into the Intel Galileo gen 2 seeing as I have a raspberry pi b+ model.

    However having overclocked one to 1000 mhz along with the graphics processing unit. I found it really wasn't sufficient for the tasks at hand. One of the TA's pointed me in the direction of a better development board with this:

    CuBox-i4Pro

    These micro computers have more processing power with a better range of options as it comes with more ram. We can get more bang for our buck with the CuBox-i2. Though it would be nice to have a micro copy of Windows on a computer but I kinda dig Linux more for these kind of computers.
     
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    #4 Tito, Nov 16, 2014
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    It doesn't make any sense. I have examined both Gen 1 & Gen 2 WIMs:
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
    "SystemRoot"="x:\\Windows"
    "SoftwareType"="System"
    "RegisteredOwner"="Microsoft"
    "InstallDate"=dword:00000000
    "CurrentVersion"="6.0.6001.16437"
    "CurrentBuild"="6001"
    "RegisteredOrganization"="Microsoft"
    "CurrentType"="Multiprocessor Checked"
    "CurrentBuildNumber"="6001"
    "ProductName"="Windows (TM) Code Name \"Longhorn\" Preinstallation Environment"
    
    Are they using Vista SP1 Beta PE with Windows 8.1 Build 9600.16384 binaries??

    :g:
     
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    #5 Smorgan, Nov 16, 2014
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    If that registry report is correct.

    Then they are using Windows Longhorn aka Vista before the developer reset which is incredibly stupid. I don't even know how to respond to that...

    We need a micro copy of Windows so we can put it on a micro computer. However there probably is a copy with the ARM chip set that supprts it.
     
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    These boards are based on x86 architecture.
     
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    anyone know what the real difference between gen1 and gen2 is, my gen1 is arriving soon
     
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    Well there really is no point in doing a 64 bit architecture with only a couple gb of ram max.
     
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    Anyone got a torrent or mirror? STILL never gotten my approval through on Connect for Windows IoT.
     
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    #11 pvdven777, Aug 12, 2015
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    So now that windows 10 IOT has been officially released I've been reading up on it.

    To me it seems to have some good potential because it has broad programming platform support from Microsoft and it fits into the whole Windows(10) eco system at the same time.

    Initial support seems very limited though. Only RPI2 and Minnowboard Max are being pushed forward, although I also see on the MS webpages that there is supposedly support for the Intel Galileo platform as well.
    Since the latter two are is an x86 based platform would it be possible to install on any x86 embedded/Industrial PC type of device ?

    So far all I find is very high level 'marketing' style documentation. However I'm trying to get a clearer picture of the possibilities before I dive in. Has anyone picked up any experience yet that they are interested in sharing ?

    (Edit : Fine print says Galileo is only for older windows versions, not sure why they show it in the lineup)
     
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    #13 KNARZ, Oct 1, 2015
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    Windows 10 IoT is LTSB

    Just wanted to let you know that regular IoT Version is nothing really more/less than LTSB (non N).
    It has some different timestamp and was built in an own process but the compare showed that there is no real difference (GVLK Package is missing, but the files are present). It only has some other SKU/identifier in Registry. The generic key for "IoT LTSB" is the same as for LTSB. So in short: IoT Keys should be regular LTSB MAK Keys.

    Identifiers in Registry:
    IoT LTSB:
    "OSProductContentId"="e1b942e4-cac8-e345-a539-637f922ec4aa"
    "OSProductPfn"="Microsoft.Windows.125.X19-99617_8wekyb3d8bbwe"

    LTSB / MSDN:
    "OSProductContentId"="be8727b0-6c35-ed73-5922-b13f2ad6d6bc"
    "OSProductPfn"="Microsoft.Windows.125.X19-98722_8wekyb3d8bbwe"
     
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    no option to make it smaller like windows embbed standard 7 ?
     
  14. KNARZ

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    nope. no modul / packaged based windows versions any more.
     
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    I guess it would be possible to install on any device with some modifications. I tried it but failed as none of my devices supports UEFI with x86 (amd64 only).
    I can tell you that you also need a firmware update for the intel x86 supported platform to run IoT. This is the reason why it's atm UEFI x86 only.
    I haven't dig that deep but invested one day.
     
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    At the moment I can say that the more I read the more confused I get. All the stuff you need to install, setup and configure makes my head spin. And all that to seemingly just get some kind of image that you can dump on the related platform storage medium.

    This way it's bound to not get much interest. I'm very confused about what Microsofts plans are for this 'full of potential' spin off OS
     
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    IoT FreeBSD will come within a few months. Maybe with TH2 or at least TH3 (if this will come) I guess.
     
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