[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Lean (CloudE) SKU

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by nuhkka, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. nuhkka

    nuhkka MDL Member

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    So this is supposed to address PC's with low amounts of storage, 16gb to be exact, but is it for new or old PC's? What computers coming out lately even come with 16gb of storage?

    And if it's for old PC's, those with 16gb of storage usually only came with 1GB of RAM. Are they going to make "Lean" less resource intensive as well?
     
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  2. Carlos Detweiller

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    Cheap tablets.
     
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  3. TairikuOkami

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    That sure would be interesting, looking forward to it. My Home, with software installed, takes only about 14GB, so that is as lean as possible.
     

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  4. cinescope

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    I think this edition is on o the most useless windows versions ever.

    They removed all the useful things and replaced them with a bunch of metro crap.

    It lacks even powershell and the device manager or the screen resolution cpl, just to mention three random things.

    With all the SW they removed stil managed to take 5GB of storage in the 32 version.

    For comparison I have some ThinPC/Embedded7 which takes less than 1GB, w/o any major renounce, and that takes the same space of a freshly installed W10 "Lean", AFTER all the software I use is installed, including VMware, Office, 3/4 browsers, the media center and so on.

    Frankly MS Bob was more useful than such amateurish job.
     
  5. KNARZ

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    #5 KNARZ, Apr 30, 2018
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    I take a look right now into the LEAN stuff. IMO this is just some kind of testbuild. The whole structure is different compared to the other editions (same build), which is way more interessting than just the fact that many files are missing. - CloudE is based on about 1160 packages, pro just about 570. I'm very uncertain what this build is or should be. From my perspective it's way to stripped down / broken to become some kind of usefull os. FW popup, Driver install and some other stuff is broken or at least needs some preparation (like with certificates). also cdfs.sys is missing, so you can't read CDs or ISOs. Many batch scripts won't work because of missing mode, forfiles, find, whoami, where and so on.
    EDIT: Some wrong assupmtions.
     
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  6. KNARZ

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    could be. but I don't think so. embedded parts are disabled and therefore is IoT / Enterprise LTSB (same) Edition. - Maybe new SKU for OEM / Embedded / IoT channel, but with no PS or real Batch support... Lockdown would be a real pain.
     
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  7. xinso

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    Thanks to @xinso, under his guidance I integrated everything just fine. I actually made a 3-in-1 ISO which includes the original 17650 Lean, the Lean with all the good stuff restored, and the Lean with all the good stuff restored, then stripped down to make look like LTSC. By all the good stuff, I mean things like PowerShell, Group Policy, Windows Media Player, Services, Hyper-V, etc. I even added RSAT. I haven't done anything with 17655 yet because, at least on my system, Hyper-V causes the dreaded Green Screen of Death!
     
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  10. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    #12 xinso, May 2, 2018
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    If converted to Enterprise S, it behaves exactly as LTSC. (Never mind. My personal preferences only.)
     
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    o_O:confused:
     
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  14. abbodi1406

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    Microsoft bloat regular editions, users try to slim and chop it
    Microsoft slim new edition, users try to bloat it
     
  15. WindowsGeek

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    Can anyone here upload a video of lean version and demonstrate some features so we can take a look at it, like to see how lean is it really also whats the size of the ISO. thanx
     
  16. cinescope

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    Nice joke,but I'm sure you're too expert to not understand the difference between a lean and a massacred OS or between a featured or bloated one.

    MS should really stop with this craziness. They had just to publish ONE minimal WIM per architecture, 500MB or so like W8 Embedded standard, then add server or client packages (and metro crap) depending the licenses and the user preference.

    Just like most linux distro are doing since the past millennium.

    Win Embedded is the proof they can, but for some stupid and masochistic reasons thy don't want to do.

    How much server space and bandwidth they spared if they had to maintain 2 wins instead of 200?
     
  17. BAU

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    Translated into $$, it would be not even the 1/1000000 the value they get in return from subscribed content, telemetry and other s**t (the most complete online persona association with camera, pictures, voice and ambient audio - ms biggest partner : the nsa cia etc)..