[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 SE

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by SAM-R, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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  2. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Is there any 11 SE ISO?
     
  3. Carlos Detweiller

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    UUP sets include SE (aka Cloud Edition) for some time, now (as a virtual Edition to be created by the conversion process).

    It requires Internet access and an MS account for clean installation, I found no way around that (unlike for Home/SL, the tricks do not work).
     
  4. cool_recep

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    #4 cool_recep, Nov 10, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2021
    Edit: Found. Thanks.
     
  5. jeff69dini

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    can u share how and where? thanks
     
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    I'm not sure this will beat Chomebook
     
  8. itsmemario1

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    When youtube is just lag and stutter,
    when the application cries for 1920x1080...

    ...thats usually the moment you regret buying this piece of plastic for your school.
     
  9. pawelm8

    pawelm8 MDL Novice

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    #10 pawelm8, Nov 11, 2021
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    Here is what seems to be the easiest way to create Windows 11 SE ISO:
    1. Download the Windows 11 package from uupdump .net:
      • Choose "Windows Pro" edition and uncheck other editions (like "Windows Home")
      • Pick "Download, add additional editions and convert to ISO" option when generating it.
    2. Unpack the downloaded package, but don't run the script yet
    3. Modify ConvertConfig.ini by adding CloudEdition to vAutoEditions. In my case it was "vAutoEditions=Enterprise,CloudEdition", as I wanted Enterprise version as well.
    4. Now run the script by executing uup_download_windows.cmd as Administrator

    And my thoughts after installing it in a VM:
    1) creating offline account in OOBE is not possible, the option is there, but it doesn't work. You can create an offline account later and remove the Microsoft account you had to create initially.
    2) it can be activated with KMS_VL_ALL_AIO, but the watermark stays on the screen. It shows Windows version in the bottom right corner and a warning about unsafe device in the upper right corner. I've tried different methods to remove them (including Universal Watermark Disabler), but none of them worked.
    3) there are some baked-in restrictions, like inability to right-click on the Start Menu button or to open the classic Control Panel. Installing StartAllBack allows to work around that (right-click works again and some of the Control Panel options can be accessed via StartAllBack custom Start Menu). I've checked everything, including GPO (in both registry and local folders, as well as gpresult report), but couldn't find where this restriction comes from and how to get rid of it. For this reason I consider it to be somehow baked-into this specific version by Microsoft, but I might be wrong.
    4) other than that this is just a regular Windows 11 without Store and Teams. Widgets taskbar icon is enabled by default, but clicking it does nothing. 3rd-party apps, like Chrome or StartAllBack can be installed normally. Feature-wise it seems to be an equivalent of at least Pro version, as GP Editor or BitLocker as present.
    5) I was wondering if apps like Notepad or Calculator will be replaced with their Win32 versions, like Microsoft did with LTSC, but nope, these are just normal Win11 modern apps. I'm not sure how MS intends to update them without Store.

    The only thing that is somehow annoying is this Control Panel blockade and the watermark.

    Edit: corrected the guide to make it more clear
     
  10. owouwu

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    You forgot about this:
    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CI\Policy" /v EmodePolicyRequired /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    
    Now try to do anything on it.
     
  11. pawelm8

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    Yap, it seems I definitely forgot about that and now W11 SE is unusable. But at least the watermark is gone, so that's something.
     
  12. egyptian hak

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    So you advise us to unuse it ? is it
     
  13. pawelm8

    pawelm8 MDL Novice

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    If you don't add EmodePolicyRequired=1 to the registry then it's basically a Windows 10 Pro with no Store, limited access to Control Panel and a watermark. It's perfectly usable if you are ok with these issues.
    If you add EmodePolicyRequired=1 then watermark disappears and true "SE" mode is enabled. In this scenario system is very limited and you can't even open regedit and cmd or import .reg files to revert this change, so be careful.
     
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  17. RobrPatty

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    Go to personalize settings and allow Control Panel in desktop icons
    Also I'm using version 22499.1 SE
     
  18. pawelm8

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    Tried that as well and it's the same. It's like if somehow all paths including "Control Panel" are blocked. Control.exe itself is not blocked, I can still open legacy User Accounts settings with "control userpasswords2". And I can open all Control Panel settings that opens in a separate window, like Internet Options.
    Then this is probably the reason for different behavior. I'm using 22000.318.
     
  19. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Created my ISO with your guide. Result:

    Adsız.jpg

    My config was:

    Code:
    [convert-UUP]
    AutoStart    =1
    AddUpdates   =1
    Cleanup      =0
    ResetBase    =0
    NetFx3       =0
    StartVirtual =1
    wim2esd      =0
    SkipISO      =0
    SkipWinRE    =0
    ForceDism    =0
    RefESD       =0
    
    [create_virtual_editions]
    vAutoStart   =1
    vDeleteSource=0
    vPreserve    =0
    vwim2esd     =0
    vSkipISO     =0
    vAutoEditions=CloudEdition
    


    Then applied your reg key, result:

    Adsız2.jpg

    What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks