[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 SE

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by SAM-R, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. pawelm8

    pawelm8 MDL Novice

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    Fellas, if you were hoping SE is some kind of a bloat-free version of Windows 11 then you can save yourself some time and forget about it.
    In "unlocked / non S-mode" state (EmodePolicyRequired=0) it's basically Windows 11 Pro without Store and Teams, but with some annoyances instead (Control Panel blocked and un-removable watermarks). Nothing else is different, no Win32 Notepad or Calculator is present (like with LTSC) etc. You can get the same result by installing Pro version and removing Store.
    In "locked / S-mode" state (EmodePolicyRequired=1) system is completely unusable, default limitations are even more strict than with Windows 10 S. I'm guessing it is intended for the school administrator to unlock things on the tenant level and without it you are locked tight.
     
  2. cool_recep

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  3. SAM-R

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  4. Enthousiast

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    Yeah, that sigma really has knowledge:rolleyes::D:D
     
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  5. RobrPatty

    RobrPatty MDL Addicted

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    #46 RobrPatty, Nov 17, 2021
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    how to get out of S mode

    edit: simply set secure boot to Microsoft & 3rd party apps. Instead of Microsoft alone.
     
  6. PolidelticusFire

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    Testing... Absolutely nothing works. No start menu, no nothing lol.
     
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  7. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    Apparently, upon installing Windows 11 SE on to a PC with Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 enabled, the OS does something to the machine which basically transforms it into a SE-only or S-Mode-only computer.

    As a result, from now on, every time you reinstall Windows 11, regardless of the SKU you choose, the OS will install itself in S-Mode!

    You can’t get out of S-Mode because the Microsoft Store refuses to run.

    - To disable this “SE Mode” you have to go into the UEFI and disable the TPM as well as Secure Boot, start Windows normally, SE mode is disabled.

    - Thanks to this now I know ALL Windows 11 SKUs have an S-Mode LMAO.
     
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  8. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    Oh yeah, and BTW, the new colorful Bloom wallpaper ISN'T on Windows 11 SE build 22504.
    It just uses the default blue one.
     
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  9. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Do not change the PC name, it'll work :) The restart screws up the installation.
     
  10. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    It's curious that it actually writes changes to the PCs TPM... and locks the machine to only accept Windows 11 in S Mode.
     
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  11. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Gonna try. Hope not :)
     
  12. PolidelticusFire

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    Keep in mind that if it locks your machine to S mode you'll have to clear the TPM to go back to normal.
     
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  13. PolidelticusFire

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    #55 PolidelticusFire, Jan 12, 2022
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  14. gareths

    gareths MDL Senior Member

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    all we need is a Laptop SE serial number...
     
  15. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    So does the "SE" have any meaning? Starter Edition, Student Edition, Senseless Edition (LOL)
     
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  17. itsmemario1

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    When I use uupdump, will the Windows 11 SE image automatically include the Minecraft Education client as well ?