[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 SE

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by SAM-R, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #61 Enthousiast, Feb 13, 2022
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    No, only when you include it in the virtual edition list.

    Code:
    [create_virtual_editions]
    vAutoStart   =1
    vDeleteSource=1 <--- will delete the source index = pro for education and cloudedition, when you want pro to be kept in the install.wim set it to "0"
    vPreserve    =0
    vwim2esd     =0
    vSkipISO     =0
    vAutoEditions=CloudEdition,Education <--- editions to be created from the source index (pro in this scenario)
    
    Progress of the settings above:
    Code:
    
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    Running UUP -> ISO v76
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    Checking UUP Info . . .
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    Configured Options . . .
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    AutoStart 1
    AddUpdates 1
    StartVirtual
    SkipBootFiles
    
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    Preparing Reference ESDs . . .
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    cabs_Microsoft-OneCore-ApplicationModel-Sync-Desktop-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_0c7aea5c
    cabs_Microsoft-OneCore-DirectX-Database-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b4b1f64a
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E1i68x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_677f488d
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E2f68-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_7c5d07e6
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Realtek-Rtcx21x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_d1862612
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Vmware-Vmxnet3-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_afd1bd23
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-FoDMetadata-Package_1e43dbbe
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Hello-Face-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_c44d52f7
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2de7405e
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-LA57-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b5f093c4
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_73a2cc5c
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_4bb4ed38
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_35329dd3
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Speech-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_8aacc904
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_47ef0f10
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_8551e0cf
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~wow64~~_9a5acafb
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Notepad-System-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_ab50e265
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Notepad-System-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~wow64~~_4e85ce99
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-PowerShell-ISE-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_be45a34e
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-PowerShell-ISE-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~wow64~~_4bc555c8
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Printing-PMCPPC-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2ace53f5
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-QuickAssist-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_29ac1f86
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-StepsRecorder-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_6518591c
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-StepsRecorder-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~wow64~~_1fa4a9db
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-TabletPCMath-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e8def5b6
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmpciedhd63-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_c6ead5b1
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63a-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_238e9558
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63al-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_77c03164
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwbw02-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_915ef1f5
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew00-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_78ccd147
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew01-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_16292ed2
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwlv64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_a9fce4e6
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwns64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2dba1511
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwsw00-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2712454c
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw02-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_58b0ed69
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw04-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_770b83c2
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw06-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_faff82e1
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw08-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_8f1ea1f5
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw10-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_19173de3
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Marvel-Mrvlpcie8897-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e4932173
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athw8x-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_d2ab8444
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athwnx-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_785f4057
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Qcamain10x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_fafd33f6
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Ralink-Netr28x-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_4dae1fb8
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8187se-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_0fb30374
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8192se-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_ed1a336a
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl819xp-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_79e8bc9f
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl85n64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_c889534f
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_7e3c899e
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane01-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_72f8a33a
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane13-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_64ad8363
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-WordPad-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e6b6a610
    cabs_Microsoft-Windows-WordPad-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~wow64~~_cf06e3a0
    cabs_OpenSSH-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_4192c3ab
    
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    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
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    Creating install.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 7425 MiB of 7425 MiB (100%) done
    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 232 MiB of 232 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Updating install.wim / 2 image(s) . . .
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    1/1: Windows10.0-KB5007297-x64-NDP48_5a090b2b.cab [NetFx]
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Mounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22543.1000
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_DotNetRollup~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.4460.20
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image File : C:\Users\Enthousiast\Downloads\Compressed\22543.1000_amd64_en-us_multi_bdc06fcb_convert\ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
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    Unmounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Mounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22543.1000
    
    Starting to update components...
    Starting to install product key...
    Finished installing product key.
    
    Adding package Microsoft-Windows-ProfessionalEdition~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.22543.1000
    Removing package Microsoft-Windows-CoreEdition~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.22543.1000
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    Finished updating components.
    
    Starting to apply edition-specific settings...
    Finished applying edition-specific settings.
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Saving image
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    Unmounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" original size: 3347424 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 7794 MiB of 7794 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" optimized size: 3235583 KiB
    Space saved: 111840 KiB
    
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    Creating winre.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 1093 MiB of 1093 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
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    Creating boot.wim . . .
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    Checking Distribution Info . . .
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    Configured Virtual Options . . .
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    AutoStart
    DeleteSource
    AutoEditions: education,cloudEdition
    
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    Creating Edition: Education
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    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 8066 MiB of 8066 MiB (100%) done
    
    Setting the WINDOWS/EDITIONID property of image 1 to "Education".
    Setting the FLAGS property of image 1 to "Education".
    Setting the DISPLAYNAME property of image 1 to "Windows 11 Education".
    Setting the DISPLAYDESCRIPTION property of image 1 to "Windows 11 Education".
    
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    Creating Edition: SE
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    Setting the WINDOWS/EDITIONID property of image 2 to "CloudEdition".
    Setting the FLAGS property of image 2 to "CloudEdition".
    Setting the DISPLAYNAME property of image 2 to "Windows 11 SE".
    Setting the DISPLAYDESCRIPTION property of image 2 to "Windows 11 SE".
    
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    Rebuilding install.wim . . .
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    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" original size: 3669510 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 16 threads
    Archiving file data: 8137 MiB of 8137 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" optimized size: 3638387 KiB
    Space saved: 31122 KiB
    
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    Creating ISO . . .
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    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 42 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (938 files in 87 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 4451172352 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 938 files in 87 directories to 22543.1000.220122-2315.RS_PRERELEASE_CLIENTMULTI_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 24 files, 14135296 bytes (1% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 4439179264 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 14135296
    
    Done.
    
    
    
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    Removing temporary files . . .
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    Press 0 to exit.
    
     
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  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    No, uupdump will only create the base edition, converted from Pro

    any "additional" apps will need original Windows 11 SE ISO
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I missed the minecraft part :D
     
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  4. itsmemario1

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    #64 itsmemario1, Feb 13, 2022
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    REMOVED
    *reported some possible exploits and glitches to Microsoft*
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Could it be delivered by the store?
     
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  6. itsmemario1

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    #66 itsmemario1, Feb 13, 2022
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    *reported some possible exploits and glitches to Microsoft*
     
  7. Muggaen

    Muggaen MDL Addicted

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    So this needs a Ms acount and can if understand right only be activated with kms tool like KMS_VL_ALL_AIO ?
     
  8. MrG

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    #68 MrG, Feb 16, 2022
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    KMS_VL_ALL worked for me.

    Edit: Attached removed
     
  9. itsmemario1

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    #69 itsmemario1, Feb 20, 2022
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    There is indeed a C:\ drive on Windows 11 SE. (thats where all your allowed programs get installed to anyway)

    You cant see it in your beloved explorer though. It is NOT there.

    But installing a tool like winrar for example, enables you to browse all folders on the C:\ drive normally.
    (Program, Files, Windows, System32)

    Copy and paste files or create new folders.

    Some folders are still protected and some tools and apps will hand out errors on installation, as they couldnt acces this and that...but the programs will run anyway.



    The store wont (really) run on Windows 11 SE, as it is blocked. For some reason, if you are fast enough after the bootup process, you CAN access the store shortly.

    Regarding "Microsoft Education", the Setup.exe as direct download will install and run just fine in Windows 11 SE.

    By now I havent come across 1 app/game/tool that wouldnt install, so I guess it is all about beeing the admin account here and there arent official, uhm ,regulations ? (see examples above)
     
  10. owouwu

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    #70 owouwu, Feb 20, 2022
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    lmao
     
  11. itsmemario1

    itsmemario1 MDL Addicted

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    Hehe, ya Im using the admins account of the school and havent yet configured devices for students.
     
  12. itsmemario1

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    #72 itsmemario1, Apr 17, 2022
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    5 months later, the announced "Windows 11 SE" devices are still mostly available in the USA, but/or either "Out of stock" or "backordered".
    Though, some made it out of the USA by now, to the UK for example.

    Some of the SE devices that were meant to be released by others (Acer, ASUS, Fujitsu etc.) are either only available with "Windows 11 Pro" or not yet released.

    I read that "more might happen around june 2022", when most of the bigger Educational Gatherings/Events begin.

    Either Microsoft or resellers dont make it very easy to get your hands on it as a school from outside of the USA.
    Even additional informations on "how to purchase" arent widely spread (yet).


    Most tests say it is running Minecraft Education perfectly (well, most 10 year old devices can do that) and that browsing and Office are no problems.
    But, also because of the restrictions, noone (could) test(ed) it using Benchmarks or Video Streaming.

    By now I tested it on one 11 year old laptop:
    (Pentium B940 (2C) + Intel HD Graphics 2000 + SSD + 4GB DDR3 RAM) and surfing as well as youtube is indeed working okay (up to 1080p) once it calmed down from its 4GB RAM problem. :p

    Heaven Benchmark (DX11) can be installed and started with 4 FPS. :p


    So, a Celeron N4120 and Intel UHD 600 with 8GB of DDR4 RAM should make some difference here on the slim Windows 11 SE.
    Hence I believe these laptops could be indeed a nice school device. (if purchased in masses, for less the 249$ each, that is)


    Anyone here got his hands on an official SE Laptop by now and could share some Benchmarks, youtube experience etc. ?

    I read different reviews on reddit, xda and others sites by now, but maybe someone here is into this as well ?
     
  13. Perdinho3

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    good grief. store "engine" is still there. how do you think ltsc gets dch driver uwp panels?
    WindowsStore AutoDownload "2" policy is the one for ltsc to prevent those panels from automatic downloading and installing