Does Windows Server 2016 have no telemetry and spying?

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  1. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    Windows 10 does telemetry and spying in secret even after disabling it in options. I want to know if disabling it in Server 2016 really disables it? Has anyone done a wireshark to keep Server 2016 honest about privacy? I plan to use Server 2016 as my daily consumer use OS if it has better privacy than Windows 10.
     
  2. atgpud2003

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    Good Question, Maybe Yes or No.. Do google research.. I been using Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Server.. Happy with 2008 R2 Server!
     
  3. EFA11

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    everything has telemetry in it, no getting around that today.

    However 2016, you can kill off almost everything in the 10 forums being grumbled about, by group policy. If you are willing to take several hours to run through it all and understand what each enable or disable does. Just disabling in group policy doesn't always disable, sometimes you need to enable to disable. Sometimes disabling one thing voids the need to enable another. Its pretty complex and quite irritating to be honest.

    But you Can with a simple built in tic box and a push of apply;

    kill driver updates
    Windows update (COMPLETELY including the URL to windows update lol)
    Lock screen
    Telemetry on many levels. Not just "yes", "no" or "maybe just a little" settings.
    links and content from the web, that pages download when you open F1 "help"
    Stop Watson data from being sent
    etc. and omg etc.

    and and did I mention a million other things?
     
  4. 90

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    You cant kill off everything in 10, adjust all the group policies and remove all the packages you want, there will still be traffic going to microsoft servers. Even Enterprise and LTSB.

    Are you saying Server 2016 is different, there is a box that gives more options to turn off telemetry than Windows 10? Do they actually work or merely give an illusion of privacy?
     
  5. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    Windows Server 2016 has better privacy?

    Anyone compared Windows Server 2016 with Windows 10 LTSB to see which has less spying?
     
  6. WinFree

    WinFree MDL Senior Member

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    Would also like to know.
     
  7. MrChris

    MrChris MDL Addicted

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    Define "Better Privacy"?

    ~MC
     
  8. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    server comes lock down by default....so i would say server.
     
  9. 90

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    #9 90, Sep 5, 2016
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    Telemetry stays off when toggled off, updates do not toggle telemetry back on, windows does not talk to microsoft servers when doing normal surfing, wireshark shows no network activity when idling, windows not phoning home on what photos or videos you opened.
    These things dont happen with LTSB.
     
  10. lobo11

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  11. WinFree

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    Sounds great. Will Server 2016 be stable as LTSB version so you won't need to update as much?
     
  12. EFA11

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    I guess that depends on your plan for its use. Although you can game on it, Ive done very little if any gaming. I do have everything I run (programs and apps) on a Normal Win10ENT or Pro installed to Server 2016 and running great. Not Modern Apps of course, no thanks.

    I've run WSUS Offline and applied updates once. It isn't a "Its update Tuesday time again" kind of system, although I do suggest you keep up on any security updates and critical fixes of course.

    Anyone unfamiliar with it should really consider running it in a VM and get to know it a little better. It can be setup to have less complex passwords, no lock screen, no "reason for reboot/shutdown" event logging, stop server manager from loading each boot etc. You can make it function as a normal desktop with minimal effort really.
     
  13. WinFree

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    Ok I'll wait for the official release or when MSDN provides SHA1.
     
  14. Wallboy

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    I don't suppose you could game on Server 2016?
     
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    #20 supersonic124, Sep 5, 2016
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