Elitebook 8530 and Mobility HD 4670

Discussion in 'BIOS Mods' started by sk0rpi0n, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. sk0rpi0n

    sk0rpi0n MDL Novice

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    Hi all,
    agreed with TTAV134 I opened this new thread.
    Here are the previous posts:

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    sk0rpi0n:

    Hi all, guys!
    I'm new here... I've a particular request for you (sorry for my english, I'm from Italy!).
    I work as a system administrator / informatic technician in an IT technical assistance company, so please don't treat me as a beginner!
    I tryied myself to bypass the BIOS whitelist for my notebook in many ways but unsuccessful, so I need your support.
    I have an HP Elitebook 8530p, with the ATI Mobility HD 3650 that is an MXM type II VGA card.
    When I bought the notebook I knew of the HP whitelist limitations, but the notebook was so perfect for my needs that I bought it anyway.
    Now I would try to update my VGA card.
    First I bought a compatible Nvidia Quadro FX 770M that is in the list of accepted VGA cards; card installed and working!
    But was not enough for me... recently I've had the possibility to install an ATI Radeon HD 4670 and an Nvidia Geforce 9600M GT.
    With the 9600M GT installed the notebook doesn't boot, blank screen (ant this was predictable!).
    But surprise, with the Mobility 4670 it boots and run Windows, I've also installed drivers and everything is ok... except for the fact that the notebook randomly shuts down (and this is not for a temperature problem, is not hot!).
    I think this problem is due to whitelist limitation, it could shutdown randomly from 30 secs from the boot to max a 10 minutes of the notebook powered on... shutdown during 3DMark or only leaving the notebook powered on... no matter, it shutsdown always within 10 minutes from the boot and randomly.
    So I need a whitelist patch, but this time is to remove the VGA whitelist, not for the WLAN card... any ideas?!?
    Thank you!

    TTAV134:

    who can claim to know everything, we are all beginners at something.
    As far as i know, only Network controllers (PCI CLASS 2) are concerned by the whithelist limitation, it is hard coded in the sub prog. i've never seen any error message concerning VGA limitation, but if you have more informations i can search in modules and disassemble the code.
    anyway you will find here a list of HP machines with (Wlan/wwan) whitelist check removed including your 8530p/8530w Notebook PC.
    concerning the shutdown, have you any trace in the event viewer of windows.
    i cant imagine any magic time bomb in the bios.
    PM to nando4 his is a hardware specialist.

    sk0rpi0n:

    I just tried to install the BIOS with whitelist removed, but as you said it removes only network controllers whitelist (PCI CLASS 2, right?)... so the problem with the VGA cards remains.
    No errors in the windows event viewer, it's surely a BIOS compatibility problem cause it shuts down even with Ubuntu loaded!
    The strange thing is that the Mobility 4670 is NOT in the compatible cards list of HP, so this card SHOULD give the same problem of the 9600M GT... instead the notebook start and boot, and randomly it "dies" within 10 minutes from the boot... no error messages, it shuts down immediately and stop, no restart or other messages / blinking leds...
    3DMark 2005 runs fine until it "dies"... very very strange!

    nando4:

    You'll need to get the vbios for the MXM module you are using AND figure a way of grafting it into the system bios. If the bios can be editted in ez2h2o then perhaps the vbios component can be overwritten using hxd's memory editing feature and saved back to a bios image? Not sure, TTAV134 is an expert at modifying the newer Elitebook bios.
    I know too the HDX9000 folks would love the ability to mod in a FX3700M or GTX260M/GTX280M vbios into their system Inventec systembios. Fingers crossed, semi (author of ADDCCV3) or Veit (author of compdeco) will make a compressor for *at least* a single module so that the compressed vbios can be pasted over the existing compressed vbios module.

    sk0rpi0n:

    Thanks nando4,
    can you explain me how to do it?

    nando4:

    Can start by finding the right VBIOS for the MXM module you intend to use. Place to look is other system's bios who use that MXM module. Use a tool like PhoenixTool to decompress the system bios into modules, one of which will be the vbios.

    sk0rpi0n:

    Hi, the ATI Mobility HD 4670 came from the MSI GX623 notebook of my sister.
    As far as I know MSI don't use the whitelist system, in fact on the MSI I can install every MXM II card I want (tried!).
    So do you think that in the MSI's BIOS I will find a module which contains the VBIOS?
    Can I extract the VBIOS directly from the Mobility 4670 actually installed on my HP Elitebook 8530?
    Or as you said it's a module that is necessarily in the BIOS of the original machine (MSI)?
    Can I use PhoenixTool to try to extract VBIOS modules from my HP 8530, at least to see how these modules works?
    I'm an absolute beginner at this point!
    Sorry for the stupid questions, I didn't understand how this VBIOS / Modules works!
    Other question: can I extract the MSI's BIOS modules directly from the BIOS update file downloaded from the MSI website or must I extract these modules from the started notebook (MSI)?

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    That's it, guys! Any help is appreciated! :p
     
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  2. sk0rpi0n

    sk0rpi0n MDL Novice

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    Noone?!? :confused:
     
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  3. sk0rpi0n

    sk0rpi0n MDL Novice

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    :( :( :( :( :(
     
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  4. sk0rpi0n

    sk0rpi0n MDL Novice

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    New thread with mode informations on the problem:

    forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/24020-What-about-bypass-HP-MXM-VGA-cards-whitelist-!
     
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  5. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Stop being all over the place! Unlikely that having 3 threads will make it just happen

    sebus
     
  6. sk0rpi0n

    sk0rpi0n MDL Novice

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    Sorry,
    this thread can be closed cause the informations were not correct (I told the notebook turned off always also when in idle, but this is not true cause recently I made other tests and in idle the notebook stays always on, it turns off only in 3D applications and after the fan increase his speed).
     
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