thanks everyone, format update and then install stuff will do better this did not happen before november rollup, it must be some kind of service pack or something big where a fresh install is better. you cannot include it in install.wim, they tried and it ends up too big
I reformatted, fresh install, no problems. Installed the big November Rollup, the same problem all over again! this has to do with that big update KB3000850 what should I do, go back to windows 7? play with 10? 7879 it's full of bugs thanks