Establishing Windows 10 HWID for later use.

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  1. A745

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    #1 A745, Jun 29, 2016
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    I do own a computer with legit Windows 7 OEM copy, has all the stickers etc. Until end of the month it's still eligible for free Windows 10 update. The point is, for certain reasons I don't want Windows 10 yet. Mainly it's about hardware and software compatibility. I know from other machine owners that HW manufacturer didn't release completely compatible drivers yet. Beside that my Windows 7 is heavily customized in certain areas - like running specific critical processes and services that were modified by me personally and I am close to sure that they would not work properly in Windows 10. But as those issues could be solved in future, questions is:

    Is it possible to get Windows 10 HWID somehow but keep Windows 7 running? Is it possible to do so without wrecking my current Windows 7 installation? Would such HWID last for life or get disabled after some time by Microsoft - if I would hesitate with migrating to Windows 10? As for cloning drives, I've tried it in past and have really mixed feelings because parts of system weren't operational and everything ran very slowly.
     
  2. lobo11

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    Create a new partition, install Win 10 there, reboot, then format partition you installed win 10 on
     
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  3. Bat.1

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    You forgot to say activate Win 10 with the Genuine 7 Key :D
     
  4. lobo11

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    It's OEM:D
     
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  5. Bat.1

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    Still gotta activate. :p Win 8.* wouldn't need it cause of the embedded key :eek:Wow, Bat getting more smart :clap:
     
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  7. A745

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    I have forgot to add, of course it's Windows 7 Pro OEM. Also it is on partitioned SSD that has plenty of other operating systems running under LILO loader. Don't want them to get hurt neither.

    Perhaps some cloning of drive would help? I would clone it then install Win10 to get HWID then format and clone back? Or any other option?
     
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  9. lobo11

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    #9 lobo11, Jun 29, 2016
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    I do not know if clone would work, may show key as being used?

    If you have pro then just download Win 10 Pro, skip key 2 times installing, when installed, enter key, after you activate it, or if you have backup copy or system restore point, you can format C drive, instal Win 10 there, enter Pro key, then format, restore backup copy to C drive. Now that I think of it, you are going to have to put it on C drive, after backup, as key cannot be in use when you activate Win 10.
     
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    That sounds best to me, just make sure it's actually activated before cloning back. I can imagine lots of people next month realising they upgraded and then re-installed their Windows 7 or 8, but didn't actually activate their Windows 10 first. Windows 10 actually has to show activated or the hardware ID isn't registered.
     
  11. lobo11

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    Would cloning show key as being used:confused:
     
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  12. Bat.1

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    If You're worried about losing something important try to find the thread where We were discussing booting from a Native VHD. :) Gotta nap now so I'll be wide awake for Jerry Springer :D
     
  13. lobo11

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    #13 lobo11, Jun 29, 2016
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    You nap to much, find a hobby, like computers, hehe, lol:D

    Would cloning show key as being used, yes or no
     
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    MrMagic, or any one would it:confused:
     
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  15. makin.ditch

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    I don't understand what you're getting at? Cloning will allow him to get his upgrade for his hardware id and then revert back to original hard drive afterwards. His old system is already activated it will still be activated. His copy of Windows 10 will be activated for later use.
    In my systems I often just restore the previous version of Windows but because of all his boot loaders he's concerned that the upgrade may break his boot loaders. He gets the best of both, if Windows 10 upgrade breaks his boot loader he just restores from the backup clone.
     
  16. Enthousiast

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    #16 Enthousiast, Jun 29, 2016
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    Create a genuineticket.xml, insert a spare hdd (disconnect all other drives) and install 10 pro, activate with genuineticket.xml and disconnect the spare drive and reconnect all other drives, now you should be able to do a, genuinely activated by HWID, re-install of 10 Pro in the future (maybe link the HWID to a MSA for use with major hardware changes).

    If you don't want to risk your 7 activation you could do a full install of 7 pro/ulti on the spare drive, activate it with DAZ' Loader and either generate a genuineticket.xml and install 10 and use the genuineticket or go thru the full upgrade process.

    ps, it's not the generic key who activates windows, it's the hwid.
     
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    I doubt there will be any major changes, it's laptop. But what is MSA and how do I link HWID to it?
     
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    He's not insider, just trying to get HWID:D
     
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