Firmware update from Windows update

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by coleoptere2007, May 31, 2019.

  1. coleoptere2007

    coleoptere2007 MDL Guru

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    Hello,

    Just found this morning an update from Windows 10 x64 Pro for my firmware UEFI (Laptop Vivobook S15 X510UAR) to version 310 as it is not even published on Asus support for this model. First time I see this. Is it safe or not to upgrade ? :confused:
     
  2. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    theirs always some risk when u flash a bios but if Asus send the firmware to MS u need to update the BIOS i say is safe make u sure your battery is install and charge before flashing.
     
  3. Mr.X

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    Wow! It's the machine's firmware!

    If anything goes south your laptop could get bricked. Careful.

    If I were you I won't let that update get in, you know it's Microc*ck and they have the bad habit of pushing borked updates.
     
  4. garf02

    garf02 MDL Member

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    I also received a firmware update, I have an Asus X556UJ and there is nothing on the website. I have upgrade the firmware and no problem
     
  5. John Sutherland

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  6. ipx

    ipx MDL Senior Member

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    wow :eek: mycrowsoft now controls bios updates as well :confused:
     
  7. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    im sure the vendor send the update to MS.....the danger is the same as going to Asus site and D\L their.
     
  8. Zardoc

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    More and more firmware updates are going to show up on WU.
     
  9. Feniksrising

    Feniksrising MDL Member

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    Why wouldn't they? Its literally the only way 95% of PC users update anything. When was the last time you heard a normal person talk about going to Asus website to check for driver support?

    No people just want windows to take care of that stuff.
     
  10. tavrez

    tavrez MDL Senior Member

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    Anyone know how to download this firmwares without installing them?
    I tired WUMT but I it doesn't store firmwares in it's usual locations
     
  11. Super Spartan

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    For example, on my Alienware Area-51m, I have BIOS v1.5.0 installed but Windows update always installs Firmware Update 1.3.2. I was worried at first that it downgraded my BIOS but after checking it was the same.

    With that said, on my previous MSI GT75 Titan 8RG laptop, no BIOS was offered through Windows update but if I went to Device Manager > Firmware then right click and hit update driver, it would download a new BIOS which wasn't even published on the MSI site yet and upon rebooting, it installed a new BIOS before booting in Windows.
     
  12. pf100

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    Like others have said, with the past history of bad updates/driver updates that cause serious problems, and since a bad bios flash can possibly turn your computer/laptop into a doorstop, what could possibly go wrong?
     
  13. coleoptere2007

    coleoptere2007 MDL Guru

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    thanks for all the replies no other choice than update. By chance firmware upgrade has be done without problems.
     
  14. coleoptere2007

    coleoptere2007 MDL Guru

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    #14 coleoptere2007, Jun 1, 2019
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    only way is downloading from Manufacturer's site if it is there. Mine has been saved in C:\Windows\Firmware

    PS : Find also mine in Microsoft Update Catalog by searching "windows 10 asustek firmware update"
     
  15. zen45

    zen45 MDL Addicted

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    firmware updates are created by the manufacturer's , Microsoft didn't develop it or program it ! if they did I would be worried because of their haphazard methods of testing ! all they are doing is updating your manufactures firmware so it should be safe .
     
  16. Mr.X

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    I rather go to manufacturer's website and do it manually.
    There's no need for Microsock to distribute firmware like that.
    Also I don't trust its criteria to do so.

    NO NO NO NO. If someone has issues go to oems website...
     
  17. MELERIX

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    me too, but not all the prople knows that they need to upgrade BIOS for security, performance, stability or compatibility reasons.

    in this decade its needed for security, performance, stability or compatibility reasons.

    yes, but common people have no idea about it.
     
  18. pf100

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    Remember people trying to block driver updates (created by the manufacturer) because Microsoft was pushing the wrong one(s)? What makes you think that now they'll never make that mistake again even once and won't push the wrong bios update and brick your machine?

    I can think of a lot better things to do with my time than ordering an eeprom programmer and taking my Thinkpad apart just so I can fix a bad flash I got from an update so that I don't have to spend $200-400 for a new board because Microsoft made a mistake. It's dangerous enough to flash a bios downloaded from the manufacturer. At least when you do it manually you pretty much know the risk you're taking (I hope). That's not Microsoft's call. They need to stay away from mine and everyone else's bios.

    Microsoft is opening themselves up to a big lawsuit by doing this and bricking machines. Imagine if they push the wrong bios to thousands of all the same type machines at a corporation and kill them all at once. The fact that they can pay for losing a lawsuit with pocket change is beside the point. Management at Microsoft needs to be replaced if they keep it up with the forced bios updates. They can't be trusted 100%, and this forced bios updates situation is going too far.

    A bricked machine definitely won't have any security, performance, stability, or compatibility issues, that's for sure. Well, maybe a performance issue.
     
  19. maddogster

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    because the latest firmwares for all machines contain the hardware microcode updates from intel so anyone not updating bios in last 2 years good luck but i guess it depends whether you care about full out performance and don't care about security part :) but i agree manufacturer website linking to the specific make/model drivers should have the firmware listed there unless it is a useless manufacturer :) specifically addressing atleast in my case for dell laptop Intel security advisories INTEL-SA-00223 and INTEL-SA-00213
     
  20. AnarethoS

    AnarethoS MDL Expert

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    I had a few for my Surface from M$. Since it is a M$ device, I was not surprised. But for other manufacturer? Well, ok. But if it crash? Whos is responsible? The user? Can't even disable Windows Update easily.