For the first time, Facebook spells out what it forbids

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  1. parrish

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    For the first time, Facebook spells out what it forbids


    NEW YORK (AP) — If you’ve ever wondered exactly what sorts of things Facebook would like you not to do on its service, you’re in luck.



    For the First time, the social network is publishing detailed guidelines to what does and doesn’t belong on its service — 27 pages worth of them, in fact.



    So please don’t make credible violent threats or revel in sexual violence; promote terrorism or the poaching of endangered species; attempt to buy marijuana, sell firearms, or list prescription drug prices for sale; post instructions for self-injury; depict minors in a sexual context; or commit multiple homicides at different times or locations.



    Facebook already banned most of these actions on its previous “community standards” page , which sketched out the company’s standards in broad strokes. But on Tuesday it will spell out the sometimes gory details.



    The updated community standards will mirror the rules its 7,600 moderators use to review questionable posts, then decide if they should be pulled off Facebook. And sometimes whether to call in the authorities.



    The standards themselves aren’t changing, but the details reveal some interesting tidbits. Photos of breasts are OK in some cases — such as breastfeeding or in a painting — but not in others.



    The document details what counts as sexual exploitation of adults or minors, but leaves room to ban more forms of abuse, should it arise.



    Since Facebook doesn’t allow serial murders on its service, its new standards even define the term.



    Anyone who has committed two or more murders over “multiple incidents or locations” qualifies.



    But you’re not banned if you’ve only committed a single homicide. It could have been self-defense, after all.



    Reading through the guidelines gives you an idea of how difficult the jobs of Facebook moderators must be.



    These are people who have to read and watch objectionable material of every stripe and then make hard calls — deciding, for instance, if a video promotes eating disorders or merely seeks to help people.



    Or what crosses the line from joke to harassment, from theoretical musing to direct threats, and so on.



    Moderators work in 40 languages.



    Facebook’s goal is to respond to reports of questionable content within 24 hours.



    But the company says it doesn’t impose quotas or time limits on the reviewers.



    The company has made some high-profile mistakes over the years.



    For instance, human rights groups say Facebook has mounted an inadequate response to hate speech and the incitement of violence against Muslim minorities in Myanmar.



    In 2016, Facebook backtracked after removing an iconic 1972 Associated Press photo featuring a screaming, naked girl running from a napalm attack in Vietnam.



    The company initially insisted it couldn’t create an exception for that particular photograph of a nude child, but soon reversed itself, saying the photo had “global importance.”



    Monica Bickert, Facebook’s head of product policy and counterterrorism, said the detailed public guidelines have been a long time in the works.



    “I have been at this job five years and I wanted to do this that whole time,” she said.



    Bickert said Facebook’s recent privacy travails, which forced CEO Mark Zuckerberg to testify for 10 hours before Congress, didn’t prompt their release now.



    The policy is an evolving document, and Bickert said updates go out to the content reviewers every week.



    Facebook hopes it will give people clarity if posts or videos they report aren’t taken down.



    Bickert said one challenge is having the same document guide vastly different “community standards” around the world.



    What passes as acceptable nudity in Norway may not pass in Uganda or the U.S.



    There are more universal gray areas, too.



    For instance, what exactly counts as political protest?



    How can you know that the person in a photo agreed to have it posted on Facebook?



    That latter question is the main reason for Facebook’s nudity ban, Bickert said, since it’s “hard to determine consent and age.”



    Even if the person agreed to be taped or photographed, for example, they may not have agreed to have their naked image posted on social media.



    Facebook uses a combination of the human reviewers and artificial intelligence to weed out content that violates its policies.



    But its AI tools aren’t close to the point where they could pinpoint subtle differences in context and history — not to mention shadings such as humor and satire — that would let them make judgments as accurate as those of humans.



    And of course, humans make plenty of mistakes themselves.




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  2. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    That's not accurate u can still see many illegal post n facebook that have not been stop. facebbok is full of s**t they knew cambridge analytica was manipulating information on millions of facebook users and did nothing about it because they were buying advertising space on their platform and now their saying they figure out the issue.... Mark Zuckerberg your a liar piece of s**t!
     
  3. Michaela Joy

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    What's with the triple-line spacing?
     
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  4. WindowsGeek

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    A lot of people were surprise and pist off of how loose FB is with peoples info.
     
  5. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    What about how loose the people are with their own info?
     
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  6. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    :D

    MJ, it's called "posturing"... :D
     
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    #7 ipx, May 7, 2018
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  8. WindowsGeek

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    That is also true.
     
  9. lewcass

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    If something looks like its free, read the small print. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
     
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  10. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    your 100% correct but your missing the point in all of this....FB new what cambridge analytica was doing on their platform and did nothing about it....they should at least giving their users a heads up that this was happening and to be careful but they chose to keep it a secret and it only came to light because a reporter in the UK blow the whistle on FB and now FB is acting like they were the victims...scammers!
     
  11. lewcass

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    #11 lewcass, May 7, 2018
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    Suckerberg knew exactly what was going on because they tried to shift european users to a new server before a european ruling came into force for which fb would have been heavily fined. And why did he decide to appear infront of a US commitee but kept sending lackeys to a british parliamenttary committee. The only thing he cares about is being caught out with nowhere to hide.

    By the way, cambridge analitica has gone bankrupt in name only. They had previously opened a new company doing the exact same business probably using the same staff, premises, hardware and data they would have backed up. cambridge analitica gone? NO.

    Check how many time suckerberg has appeared infront of various commitees and always promised to do better and how he never seems to know anything. He is rich liar, now theres a thing.
     
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  12. Yen

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    Why do people blame FB for 'things' which are obvious or claim for a change?
    Have those people ever believed their data would not be sold or even such 'business men' would ever change?

    I do not blame FB for anything nor do I expect a change. I just do not use it or ever would.
    Any US law based company has issues with privacy...especially those from Silicon Valley business....
     
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  13. Paiva

    Paiva MDL Developer

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    I agree. I've been a Facebook user for years.
    It's been a while since you've deleted my account.
    I'm more free today hahahaha
     
  14. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    :roflmao: :eek:

    :eekout:

    Everything is about money. Not just businesses, but the entire world.

    And yeah...no face-and-crotch book for me thank you.
     
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  15. Tiger-1

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    yep MJ same here :rifle::nono3::thumbdown:
     
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  16. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    This is exactly it, no one is being forced to use something, you are also getting something for "free" and pay in info.
    If you don't understand this then read their eula. Also you have a lot more power than you think, you choose the info you share, you can choose to share a lot of junk data.
     
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  17. Joe C

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    Many years ago I joined FB and told them my b-day was 6-6-66 just as a joke (o.k. I lied) and now every year on 6-6 Google wishes me a happy b-day
     
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  18. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    FU, too, FB!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...erm=274654&subid=20906735&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

    Facebook is facing a class action lawsuit over the revelations that it logged text messages and phone calls via its smartphone apps.

    In the lawsuit filed in Facebook’s home of the northern district of California, the primary plaintiff, John Condelles III, states that the social network’s actions “presents several wrongs, including a consumer bait-and-switch, an invasion of privacy, wrongful monitoring of minors and potential attacks on privileged communications” such as those between doctor and patient.

    Facebook collected the logs of text messages and calls, including the recipients and duration of the communications, through its apps for Android including Messenger when users opted into being able to send SMS from the app or give access to their contact lists.
     
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  19. lewcass

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    And the lemmings will still keep using it. Turkeys voting for christmas.
     
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  20. zen45

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    the internet is a money pot, you cant use google search engine with out seeing adds on msn showing you what you were searching for ! all the social networks sell you info , why do banks call you up wanting you to refinance your home ,how did they know you did own a home ? did you get a discount card from Lowes sears safeway for gas did you buy movie tickets online ? if an organization doesn't sell your info then they get hacked and your info is stolen and sold ! and if I have to buy anything on line I use a debit card and the bank does not allow overdraft on it and the only time there is money in the account is when I know im going to use it other wise they only get $20-30. its really sad when you go to the doctor with a little ear problem and you get adds for hearing aids that you didn't get before so information is big business and every body is getting into it LOL and you thought only the nsa was watching you !