Global Arctic Methane Emergency

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  1. Knives*

    Knives* MDL Member

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    Part 1:


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    And finally...

    http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/arctic-methane-hydrate-catastrophe

    So between 2015 (now) and 2025, 50 gigatons of methane is being released. There is nothing we can do to stop it. In the last video posted above (Part 2), if you skip to 3:22 and listen onward, you will see Dr. Peter Wadhams state that he doesn't think we'll survive.
     
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  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Can't we just... oh, I don't know.... burn it?:rolleyes::D:biggrin::D:p:D
     
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  3. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    Exactly! Collect it and burn it for fuel.

    But NOOOOOOOOO! We have to scream about it so that we can tax the masses.

    Ozone depletion? Why not build balloons with HV generators and seed the stratosphere with ozone?

    Because there's funds to be had for studies and mental masturbation.

    :MJ
     
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  4. John Sutherland

    John Sutherland MDL Addicted

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    Things like this make me laugh, because people think the human race is so damn significant. This planet has existed for roughly 5 billion years without us. We've been around for only the last 5 million years or so, which is only one thousandth of that time. And it's only in the last 100-200 years or so that we've acquired enough intelligence to even consider "thinking" about an issue like this. I'm sure the planet has faced this very same crisis before, and somehow it's managed to survive without any help from us. Why do people always insist that "we must do something about this problem or face a global crisis"? What's more laughable is that even if we knew what to do, would we actually have the means or the will to do it?
     
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  5. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    We're good at making a mess and not cleaning it up, that's for sure. But the truth is, this nonsense is part of an economically driven agenda. This rhetoric is the precursor for more taxes.
     
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  6. John Sutherland

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    "The Permian mass extinction has been nicknamed The Great Dying, since a staggering 96% of species died out. All life on Earth today is descended from the 4% of species that survived. The event turns out to have been complex, as there were at least two separate phases of extinction spread over millions of years. Marine creatures were particularly badly affected and insects suffered the only mass extinction of their history. Many causes have been proposed for the event: asteroid impact, flood basalt eruptions, catastrophic methane release, a drop in oxygen levels, sea level fluctuations or some combination of these." - From the BBC Nature website; one of the five mass extinction events in earth's timeline

    The Permian event occurred about 250 million years ago, long before mankind ever existed, meaning that it occurred without any sort of influence from us as a species. I think it's extremely arrogant of us to consider ourselves to be the masters and proprietors of the planet we inhabit, or to have any effect over the weather or the geological events that might occur here.

    And to think that we as a species are immune from a mass extinction event is either extremely arrogant or extremely ignorant on our part. Unfortunately, in today's society, there's plenty of both to go around.
     
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  7. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    No, no: arrogant would be to think that we do not have any impact, with whatever we do... And now we can do a great fookin' big deal, with the numbers we are at and the dirty technology that we use, in a capitalist nasty context...
     
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  8. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    1. I think is extremely ignorant to NOT consider ourselves to be the masters and proprietors of this planet, of course we are, just look around and see if not. The problem is that the nature is going to take it's toll by forcing us to pay our huge footprint.

    2. We are too happy and comfortable to even think about that, but when the time comes arrogance and ignorance will be nothing compared to sadness.