Before being removed from MDL, what was Daz's latest Windows Loader? Was it 2.2.1 or 2.2.7? I am asking because other sites are showing different versions from what I am aware of. Also the WAT Latest version? If anyone knows I would appreciate the versions of the latest ones. I don't trust other sites for their information and their added programs they want you to download! I am also confused as to the Loader and the WAT program of Daz. Does the WAT program make it safe to download the KB971033? Some sites are saying that theirs removes Windows' ability to re-activate the Original Files built in. I have used the Loader by Daz in the past and have had nothing but good results with it. The WAT program I have never used, but also times have changed! I would like to deploy all tools to keep Windows at bay, but I have-in the past-used the Windows Loader as late as Vista and passed the WAT Test for tools like the System Update Readiness Tool that requires Validation before allowing the download. I will do some more research on this, but it would be a great help if some one would just tell me the latest Ver. of the two programs and whether WAT will remove the Original Files that Windows has built in to foul the Genuine Windows Test. A PM would be nice as I am not likely to find this place again! Thanks for any knowledge you can share with me.