i looked at it , but it is a linux software and it will edit efi boot of linux booting drive . my troubles are the parameters of the efi menu : for ubuntu i have two : BCD ID: {4418fe06-695a-11e2-b3d1-806e6f6e6963} Bootloader Path: EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi there is only one win 8 entry , so i wonder what is the BCD ID of the second hd with win8 boot.ini was easier ;'[