Hewlett Packard - HP 650 bad flash - Is it broken or can it be fixed?

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  1. Toad86

    Toad86 MDL Novice

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    Hello,

    I read some Threats about fixing Bios problems, because I have a big problem.

    I´ve got a new notebook HP 650. I made a Bios Update, but it crashes somehow. Only the Powerbutton, numlock and Wifi blink.


    I do not know which Bios Version / Brand the HP 650 got. Can you help me ? Can I fix it somehow?

    Thank you very much!

    Sorry for my bad english...
     
  2. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    #2 LatinMcG, Dec 23, 2012
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    u probably had wrong model selected
    HP 650 Notebook PC(H5K59EA)
    HP 650 Notebook PC(H5K77EA)
    HP 650 Notebook PC(C1M80EA)
    HP 650 Notebook PC(C1M78EA)

    which is it? under it.

    if its F.22 bios version then the files should be
    01858.fd
    or
    01859.fd
    to do the recovery.
    also i dont see a EFI update dload to make USB so its a strange one.
     
  3. Toad86

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    Under it there is no print or anything else. Only when I remove the battery.

    There is a serial and a Productnumber:

    Product: B6N09EA#ABD

    Don´t know where or how I can find it!?
     
  4. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    check hard disk in another pc to see if it has partition HP_TOOLS in it has bios/current.
    if it did it should recover automatic with fn esc keys pressed while powering on.
     
  5. Toad86

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    It has no such partition, I have formated the hard drive :/ cause there was a linux system on it!
     
  6. Toad86

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    #6 Toad86, Dec 24, 2012
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    Is there anything I can do? Or should I take support by HP or where I bought it?

    Hoped I could fix it by myself :( (with your help :])

    EDIT:

    Found maybe something..There is a REV-Number:

    1858-100

    Found with google this link to the bios version. Maybe this is the correct one?

    Type: BIOS
    Version: F.12 (17 May 2012)
    Operating System(s): Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
    File name: sp57316.exe (9.5 MB)

    Can´t post the link...

    Edit 2:

    Dowloaded it and extracted I´ve got the mentioned Files:

    01858.fd
    AND
    01859.fd
     
  7. LatinMcG

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    #7 LatinMcG, Dec 24, 2012
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    put 01858.fd and 01858.bin in usb and try FN esc keys held before powering on.

    its insyde bios but no EFI utility to download so its a tough one.
     
  8. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    Here you go:
     
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  9. Toad86

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    #9 Toad86, Dec 24, 2012
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    Tried it but it doesn´t work. The USB LED blinks really short just at the beginning but nothing happens. Only the other LED´s blink.
    Do I have to use phoenixtool first and rename the files after or can I rename the original 01858.fd into 1858.bin and .fd?
    And how does it have to be formated fat16 or fat32. Only the two files on the stick?

    Tried this method also, but I do not know the right UEFI for my HP 650, didn´t find it.
    Something else I can try?
     
  10. LatinMcG

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  11. Toad86

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    #11 Toad86, Dec 25, 2012
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    Thanks a lot for the files, but I didn´t get it work.

    I have dloaded your files, made the UEFI USB with SP57448 and placed the two files in Hewlett-Packard/Bios/Current

    Then plugged the USB Stick into the Notebook, hold win+b or fn+b, or fn+esc and power on, but nothing happens.

    I tried also to put the files in the other folders new and previous.

    I used also two different USB-Sticks one 1GB Trekstor and an 2 GB Sony..
    Am I doing something wrong?
     
  12. LatinMcG

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    take hdd out
    put file also in Previous folder.
     
  13. Toad86

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    #13 Toad86, Dec 25, 2012
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    Hey,

    Should I take HDD of the notebook out? And then the same procedure with the usb stick like before? But with previous folder too?

    EDIT:

    Just to get sure I´m doing everything right.

    1. Took the HDD out of the Notebook.

    2. Made the UEFI USB with Sp57448.exe

    3. Put the 01857.bin an .sig from your .rar into G:\Hewlett-Packard\BIOS\Current and \previous

    4. Put the USB in the USB-Port of the Notebook, Battery is disambled, cable not connected.

    5. Holding Win+B Keys, Connect the cable, Pressing Powerbutton.

    6. Result --> Nothing happens, only the mentioned flashing capslock LED after some secounds an Power&Wifi LED are lightend.

    The USB is formated in Fat32!
     
  14. LatinMcG

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    #14 LatinMcG, Dec 25, 2012
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    seems right but try with battery.. and folder name Previous not previous

    also try making UEFI with sp57864 or sp57924
     
  15. Toad86

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    Tried both UEFI..with battery, without and so on. Nothing works.. :/

    I will post some screens...

    How long do I have to wait after pushing win+b? I wait until the Capslock starts to blink again...

    first.JPG
    second.JPG
    third.JPG
     
  16. LatinMcG

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    not sure if your is using efi since its original linux right ?
     
  17. Toad86

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    Got the Notebook with Linux Preinstalled. Don't know it is standard, don't think so. Tried everything you told me, nothing worked :/. Have mailed the HP support contacted and the store I bought it. Think I have to send it to the support.
     
  18. LatinMcG

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    yeah stil under waranty. rather if it was not u could open it and use soic clip to usb programmer to read a backup.bin and rewrite a fixed.bin
     
  19. Ayad

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    Is there another tool can decrypted bios version F.22?
     
  20. mydigital_nikita

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    #20 mydigital_nikita, Jul 26, 2013
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    I too have the HP 650 Notebook/Laptop. Bought in Germany and now used in the UK.
    According to HP support provided in a chat window there were no updates to this Laptop....Then I showed a link for the HP 650 series of PC notebooks where clearly all the business with the softpaqs starts to come into play.....

    My solution after thinking and not understanding what the phoenixtool was or anything else....to simply use
    WinUSB(Linux tool...you can use "Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool" on a windows system) with a "Windows 8.1 Blue" image that was in evaluation/development when I got it from Microsoft as a free download of 2.8GB image.
    So I used WinUSB and the 2.8GB image with a USB stick - 16GB where the WinUSB made 2 partitions and made the USB bootable.

    Once all copying was done and the Flash was ready , I had another smaller flash which simply had the sp paqs...one of the softpaqs said is for UEFI...and the other was the bios update for Insyde F.37 and 1858/1859 ROM .
    Started the installer but did not install simply went to the "command line" command prompt and then had to find what letter was my second usb disk assigned....I think it was G:\ or H:\ .... Next I found the UEFI softpaq and ran that .....that came out with an error (something to do with the installer being with version less than 2.0)
    Then I tried straight for the bios update softpaq -

    Type: BIOS
    Version: F.37 (14 Jun 2013)
    Operating System(s): Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 8 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 8 (64-bit)
    File name: sp62135.exe (9.9 MB)
    Simply typed sp62135 in the command line prompt and the wholle flashing program started.....
    It was checking loading ....the fan started spinning on the notebook fairly intense and then it went through the flashing stages...with about 2-3 reboots informing me that flashing was done ok.

    One strange thing was that the softpaq identified the board as 1859 and both bios and lshw under linux see the system/mother board as 1858....
    still flashing has been done and I am writing this from the board being 1858 or 1859...Bios shows F.37 as the bios version and that is a value taken from the F.12 I had before the flashing.
    Dont see significant changes in Bios with the exception of the UEFI part and bits plus some hardware checks like HDD and Memory tests...
    I wanted to get and unlock virtualisation as my research showed that the CPU does support it but BIOS does not....Will see if there are any benefits in further investigation.

    Kept simple for this method :

    Step 1: Get WinUSB or Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool
    Step 2: Get the latest evaluation image from Microsoft ....etc WindowsBlue-ClientwithApps-32bit-EnglishUnitedKingdom-2358796.iso
    Step 3: Write the downloaded iso image to a USB stick with one of the above mentioned tools(Step 1).
    Step 4: Copy softpaqs or other software to run onto the newly created USB stick partitions(I had 2 partitions created by WinUSB)(or you can use a separte USB Stick that has the softpaqs...SP exe files executables)
    Step 5: Restart and get BIOS to load from the USB stick you have just created.
    Step 6: Do not install Windows when prompted but seek to open the "command line"/"command prompt" option.
    Step 7: Once in the Command prompt hunt down the "volume's letter"/"mount point" for the USB stick that has the Softpaq executables you copied earlier....Start with "C:" and work your way towards "Z:" alphabetically using the good old dir and cd approach....
    Step 8: Run the executable files and follow the onscreen dialogues.(Simply type the executables name "sp62135.exe" once you "cd" your way to it and "dir" verify you are in the correct directory)

    That worked for me when I ran the F.37 bios update or sp62135.exe