High DPI Display Monitors and Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by nealix, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. nealix

    nealix MDL Novice

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    Does Windows 10 have new features for dealing with High DPI high resolution display monitors, such as 4K and 5K displays?
    I am seeing the arrival of laptops and many desktop displays that are QHD and UHD, such as 2560 x 1440 up to 4096 x 2160 desktop and laptop panels. Windows 7 was almost unusable. Adobe Photoshop was also, and Adobe complained openly to their customers that Microsoft Windows 7 lacked the API's needed for proper High DPI awareness and application scaling.

    Does Windows 10 (and the dev team) recognize that these HW products have arrived, and does Windows 10 add new features to properly support running on high resolution displays?

    Thanks

    Neal
     
  2. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I have two ultrabooks with one having almost a 4k resolution(the Samsung Ativ book 9 @ 3200 x 1800 QHD) and it scales well compared to past Windows 8.1. I don't need to change text size,etc. The other one is Acer Aspire S7 having a 1900 x 1080 also scales better.
     
  3. RDaniel

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    Not a Windows 10 anwser per se, but i recently read an article about running Alien:Isolation on a Retina Mac (with a 5K display ...) using Windows 8 (google it to get the link) and the results were very good. So, i have no reason to doubt Windows 10's ability to to at least as good a job :)
     
  4. Aly

    Aly MDL Member

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    I have a Samsung 65" 4K UHD TV that is mostly used as a monitor.
    I had to stop using 7. Too many little issues with 4K and multiple monitors.
    Installed 8.1 in July as a test and all issues I was having were gone. Never going back to 7. The scaling in 8.1 is sooo much better and much more customizable. There may still be a rare problem within apps that don't support large fonts properly. Some games don't scale and have tiny text.
    Nothing has changed from 8.1 to 10TP. It still works well. Try either. You will never go back to 7. Both 8.1 and 10 automatically set fonts at 200%. I like it at 170%
    4K at 65" is bliss! Now with a EVGA GTX 980 and HDMI 2.0, 7.2 audio :jawdrop::woot_jump:
     
  5. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    That seems simply an problem with used Drivers.

    Windows could not delivers or integrate ALL driver for any Hardware which may exist, that's impossible. Altough, MS has to rely on the needed infos from the Manufacturers of hardware which drivers they includes in the os! As it came to Pre-Release software, soecial in very early stage like Windows 10 TP, there would and will be a lot driver problems. Many Hardware Manufacturers are not willing to 'update' their driver to the new needs. Therefore it's wrong to point all times to MS as source of such fault's!
     
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  6. Yen

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    It seems some of you are confusing the 4K standard with actual resolution which is always width*height.
    A 4K TV or monitor has a horizontal resolution on the order of 4,000 pixels hence it is called 4K. But its resolution is actually around 8K.

    Also a screen that has 4K resolution (width*height) is no 4K screen, for instance 2560 x 1600 = 4.096 K resolution ≠ 4K standard which is 3840 x 2160 (at a 16:9, or 1.78:1 aspect ratio), which is lower than the 4K industry standard of 4096 x 2160 (at a 19:10 or 1.9:1 aspect ratio)... :)
     
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  7. Aly

    Aly MDL Member

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    I am not confused.

    4096 - 4K
    3840 - UHD
     
  8. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    I like it when Yen talks dirty. :biggrin3:




    I do think it is a driver issue as pisthai has mentioned. That and 3rd party software. MS of course has its bugs still in TP, but with a little hope everything should be ironed out by RTM.
     
  9. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    what would we do without wikipedia lol
     
  10. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    deeppedia? :biggrin3:
     
  11. Smorgan

    Smorgan Glitcher

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    We could always use urban dictionary :D
     
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  12. Yen

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    #13 Yen, Nov 6, 2014
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    There are 2 things which might confuse.
    UHD belongs to the 4K standard even though it is not fully realized there. UHD is advertised as 4K.
    And it is related to the horizontal resolution only. (Which actually makes no sense since we are speaking of 2 dimensional objects to view.)
    And Apple is talking about 5K dispays even though there is no real 5K industry standard. There's 8K, though.

    No wonder there are driver issues / confusion...
    The only value that really counts (considered to be 'sharp') is PPI (DPI) in relation to distance!
     
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