How to move Dell Win 8 Pro to another Dell?

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by ServiceTag, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    is there any easy way to move Win 8 Professional from brand new Dell Insp i660 (still in box not even powered up) to another Dell (XPS 8500 with Win7)?
    I just googled and realized it's not as easy since Win8 activation is now done through the BIOS or something?

    I got Win8 & Win7 installation DVDs from Dell and installed Win 7 on Dell Insp 660 using new SSD w/o any major problems, incl. activation and all updates.

    However I am not sure how to go around Win8 activation after I do installation from DVD on XPS computer?
    I will definitely appreciate any help!
     
  2. ace2

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    #2 ace2, Apr 2, 2013
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    If you have the Dell installation discs

    Install Dell installation disc & BUY A Dell Windows 8 Professional SERIAL

    MAY NOT WORK Dell installation disc MAY CHECK THE MACHINE & NOT WANT TO INSTALL

    OR (MAY NOT WORK)

    1.MAKE A Windows 8 (Dell Recovery) Bootable USB Stick (From Dell installation discs OR On/IN The brand new Dell Insp i660)

    2.MAKE A EI.CFG File

    COPY

    [EditionID]
    Professional

    [Channel]
    Volume

    [VL]
    1

    INTO New Text Document Save As EI.CFG (NOT EI.CFG.txt)

    3.MAKE A PID.txt File

    COPY

    [PID]
    Value=PUT Windows 8 Professional SERIAL HERE

    INTO New Text Document Save As PID.txt

    4.ADD EI.CFG & PID.txt TO sources FOLDER ON THE USB STICK

    5.Google -> Appendix A: KMS Client Setup Keys <- FOR Windows 8 Professional SERIAL & Use A KMS server OR KMSAuto v2.21 Portable EN to Activate.:p
     
  3. cocachris89

    cocachris89 MDL Senior Member

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    You could clone/image the Win8 hdd and then put it on the other computer, then use a kms key and MDT to activate it.
     
  4. anarchist9027

    anarchist9027 MDL Expert

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    You could just move the hard drive from the new Dell to the other computer and use Product Key Checker on that new dell with a fresh install of Windows 8 and retrieve the key from the BIOS. The only thing you cannot do is have Windows 8 operating on both systems with the same serial number or it will get blacklisted.
     
  5. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    I'm sorry but I need a little more help here....
    1/ clone Dell Insp660 Win8 Pro HD (it wasn't even powered up/activated) to new SSD
    2/ on XPS machine loaded with SSD & cloned Win8 I need to do fresh install from DVDs?
    3/ same time I should retrieve key using PKC from BIOS on Dell Insp 660? even though it's now running Win7? so BIOS is still holding Win8 key?
    4/ use retrieved key to activate Win8 on XPS computer?
    Am I getting it or not?

    BTW, same serial it's not going to happen since my family member like to stick with Win7 on her Dell Insp 660 forever (she got good deal on open box at local store, but the same time she hates Win8 at work, so now she's very happy with Win7)
    However I would like to play/test Win 8 on mine XPS8500 from time to time...
     
  6. anarchist9027

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    okay from step 2, just swap the HD from the new computer to the old. step 3, install Windows 7 on the new computer from a dvd and use the key checker I recommended but use this key checker instead, (I gave you the older one earlier by mistake). Check "Use MSDM box". 4, activate Windows 8 with that key on the older computer you want to use it on :)
     
  7. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Are you sure that will works? Isn't it that the OEM Keys from Laptop's sold with preinstalled Windows 8 are located in the BIOS of that computer? Wouldn't be checked by activation that those key is still in the BIOS available even if you use a to key in those key manually?

    I'm really not sure it will work! I believe that MS has locked those OEM Key's from preinstalled Windows 8 OS's and has an check routine for to find out it's legit or not. With legit I didn't mean that key, I mean the way how that key were inserted.
    Maybe it would work with Phone activation if the explanation, why those key isn't any more in that Bios, is good enough!
     
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  8. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    I got it. Thanks!
    Once I activate Win 8 on old computer, is it going to make any temporary or permanent changes to BIOS?
    What happens if there is any BIOS upgrade, should I stay away or is it OK to upgrade?

    I'm still not following all this Win8 activation mambo-jumbo, but hopefully this work w/o any extra headaches...
    I assume on my old computer (XPS) swapping two HD with different OS should be no problem, am I right?
     
  9. anarchist9027

    anarchist9027 MDL Expert

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    It will not effect the bios in anyway. You will be safe to update the BIOS. I should not cause no problems :)
     
  10. ServiceTag

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    Oops, so you telling me it's not going to work?
    What about ideas from post #2 (a little more complicated) or #3 (need to find what MDT means..).
    Do I have better chance with those?
     
  11. pisthai

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    To be honest, I'm not sure!

    My point is that the new activation scheme of Windows 8, special for OEM Preinstalled Windows 8, is using special BIOS, means the Product Key is located in the BIOS of that OEM Machine.
    Question is: Has MS a system which is able to check that the Product Key used is still located in the machine which should be activated or not! Frankly, I don't believe they would have miss that check! But I could be wrong, and also frankly: I don't know. Why MS would have changed to that new activation if they had not secure the use?!
    The only way to find out what could be done is: TEST!
     
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  12. anarchist9027

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    Microsoft new system is OA 3.0 which means the key needs to be activated online when used. All Windows 7 COA labels have an OA serial which is used to activate if you used vanilla media aka retail disc (Not OEM media which SLIC 2.1). My directions should work but if they do not, you can always use personal KMS activation:
    Microsoft Toolkit - Official KMS Solution for Microsoft Products or read this [HOW-TO] KMS-HOST and TOOLS v 3.0.

    Just remember Windows 8 core edition does not support KMS
     
  13. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    pulled the key from new computer and moved cloned Win8 on SSD into old Dell. However I'm stuck in BIOS "Boot Mode" screen. Should I leave it at Legacy or change it to EEFI? Any other options like System mode=USER, Secure Boot State= disabled, Secure Boot=Disabled, Load Legacy OPROM=Enabled should be changed?
    TIA
     
  14. anarchist9027

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    I would leave all the setting alone but it doesn't hurt to experiment :rolleyes:
     
  15. ambidav

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    #15 ambidav, Apr 4, 2013
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    Best solution would be to clean install windows 8 onto the old laptop and use the key from the new laptops bios to activate it on your older machine, if activation fails and says the key is in use or already used on another machine then try phone activation OEM DM keys can be phone activated!! I really would not bother cloning HDD'S as you might end up in a bit of a mess with the settings from the source :)
     
  16. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    Interestingly enough cloned drive failed to boot under Legacy mode. After I switched to UEFI then SSD become visible and bootable, however it end up in Recovery BSOD with Error code: 0xc0000225 File:\Windows\system32\winload.efi is missing or contains errors. Repair didn't work either...
    So I went for clean install as you recommended. I was asked for the key right at the beginning but Win 8 Pro key previously recovered from the other new computer didn't work. Luckily the other Win8 key from same XPS desktop model worked, at least for installation part. (that computer was converted from Win 8 to Win7 as well)
    Now big question is if I should proceed with activation or not, since my machine has to most likely go back to Dell for replacement. At this point I hate to waste key which could possibly work.
    TIA
     
  17. anarchist9027

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    I would go ahead and activate
     
  18. ServiceTag

    ServiceTag MDL Novice

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    Actually I did, since Dell sending me replacement part only.
    and surprise, surprise - it's running all great!
    thanks to everybody for help
     
  19. anarchist9027

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    Anytime my friend :hug2: