How to upgrade from W7/8.1 without going through the complete upgrade process

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  1. SM03

    SM03 MDL Member

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    Thanks everyone who've relied on. One more question, is it necessary to install all of the Win7 driver software before generating the ticket manually for clean installation or before proceeding via the Win10 ISO in place ugradation process. in another thread, one of the MDL member told me this but I didn't see such instruction in this topic or Op so asking
     
  2. oldsh_t

    oldsh_t MDL Expert

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    That is step #2
    1. Optional: Validate your copy of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.x
    2. Install all necessary drivers e.g. ethernet & wireless card
     
  3. SM03

    SM03 MDL Member

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    well then what about newly released Dos/Unix based notebook and desktop motherboard, no win7 driver support for those new h/w so how can anyone generate a guaranteed win10 license xml ticket without installing the win7 drivers in that case
     
  4. urie

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    Well you will never know untill you try a windows 7 installation also no one can realy advise without correct info i,e, motherboard model e.t.c
     
  5. Barney Rubble

    Barney Rubble MDL Novice

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    #1945 Barney Rubble, Nov 13, 2018
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    As far as I know this should work:
    - Install Win10 - skip activation for now
    - install VM solution (VirtualBox/VMware Player/...)
    - install Win7 in VM, activate with DAZ loader
    - get free upgrade to Win10 from MS
    - bind digital license to MSA
    - use activation troubleshooter on physical machine to transfer dugital license from VM
    - delete VM
    Should MS ever block license transfer from VM, use an old PC instead.
     
  6. SM03

    SM03 MDL Member

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    hi, thanks, bt can you clarify from the 4th point in detail.
     
  7. Barney Rubble

    Barney Rubble MDL Novice

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    Just read the first post of this thread, it should get you on the right track.
     
  8. SL2

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    Activation worked as usual! :cheers:

    Installed W7 32 bit Ultimate & DAZ Loader, used 1607 32 bit gatherosstate, installed 1809 64 bit (17763.107) & activated.

    I prefer using 32 bit W7 for installs used only for upgrade just to avoid getting GPT accidentally.
     
  9. -Jim-

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    Hi Gentlemen,

    I've haven't done this since about 2015 and wonder if it will work on an Asus Z370-A Motherboard with a i5-8600K CPU and and HP EX920 M.2 1TB PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD. Please comment.

    I'm rebuilding my son's gamer box, and wonder if any of this new hardware will throw us a curve. I have a Windows 7 Ultimate (untouched => X17-59465.iso) from 2014 (GSP1RMCULXFRER_EN_DVD) ; and a Windows 10 64 bit ISO (untouched) from 2015 that I was planning to use. Or would it be better to get a more current Windows 10 image, rather than have a pile of updates later?

    Any guidance and assistance will be appreciated. We'd rather avoid any Loader or KMS activator for Windows 10.

    Thanks for the assist.
     
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  10. -Jim-

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    Thanks for the post but your link takes me right back here??:confused:
     
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  11. urie

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    Thanks for the links urie. I probably know the answer to this question, but if I substitute a typical SATA SSD for the Win 7 installed, and then swap back to the NVMe SSD for the Win 10 install, would the GenuineTicket.xml file work to activate it?

    Another scenario, I bought some Win 8 keys from MS and never used them. My first go around with Win 8 was so depressing, I abandoned upgrading our boxes, and stayed with Win 7 until Win 10 came out. Is there a way to use one of those Keys here?

    Thanks for the assist.
     
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  13. urie

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    why don't you install 8.1 will be easier than 7
     
  14. -Jim-

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    Yes, I was wondering if that would be easier. My keys were for Win 8 if my memory serves me (not 8.1). I was thinking maybe I could avoid the NVMe SSD river issue by installing Win 8. Is that correct in what would make it easier?

    And I'd least get something out of the Win 8 keys I paid for.
     
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  15. -Jim-

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    #1956 -Jim-, Nov 27, 2018
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    Thanks for the post. I'll try this when the SSD and CPU arrive. I bought it all on Black Friday and they are in transit.

    In the meantime I'll go looking for the Win 8 keys I bought...:oops:

    I found the Win 8 key. Now I'm wondering if I should just use the Win 10 image I mentioned above and run the latest Cumulative Update? It was recently released and is KB4467708. I figure it would take me a while to find the latest Win 10 64 image and pull it down.

    Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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  16. urie

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    Just try the installation wont take that long and if you are activated then just use latest version to update or clean install.
     
  17. Nazzy

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    #1958 Nazzy, Nov 30, 2018
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    Is "GenuineTicket.xml" only used once per Win 10 activation (1:1 ratio)? Or can the same "GenuineTicket.xml" be used for multiple Win 10 activations on different machines / vm's? (1:many ratio)

    UPDATE: I used a Win 7 Pro virtual machine and confirmed the same xml can be used for different vm's with clean Win 10 Pro installs. Which is interesting because on a 2nd Win 7 Pro vm, the resulting xml file had slightly different content inside than the 1st (viewing with notepad).
     
  18. bfoos

    bfoos MDL Novice

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    The GenuineTicket.xml file is machine specific as far as I know.
     
  19. piercekalton

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    I successfully went from 8.1 KMS to Win 10 17763.1.1809 on one machine. I am on insider 18290.1000 on it now though. these numbers become confusing after a while

    I'm having a little trouble with another machine that has Win 7 on it atm (had to reseat the RAM and Win 7 is probably corrupted) but I have to make some hardware changes and I had to reset the BIOS so I have to sit and read the BIOS manual and get Win 7 working correctly again and do a backup first before I try any Windows 10 upgrade. I have a thread about it in the Win 7 forum.

    if you think you can use a new ISO you should because Windows update take quite a while especially without SSD and lots of RAM. I'm working on older PCs though that are near minimum spec for Win 10. they work good though. just a little slow. I'm more excited about the other one because it has nVidia and SSD but I don't want to break it so I'm going to stick with Win 7 for now.