i have a valid key, but get error messages saying its invalid

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by helga, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. helga

    helga MDL Novice

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    Hey all,

    My new laptop HP came pre-installed w/ win7 (build 7600.16385.090713-1255).. and HP no longer provides a Windows disk. which i think is crap. the new system restoration disks take 2 hours to wipe out all your partitions and put all their partitions back on..4 primary partitions mind you so i have no place to put linux. in trying to set up my dual boot i've mucked up everything and want to start from a fresh windows install not a system retore.

    but i digress... i was reading the Windows 7 repository thread.. is there a way to use those isos and my current license? i tried (both w/ the key on my sticker and the key i found w/ a key finder) and was told i didn't have a valid key. do i have to mod the ei.cfg? or should i not bother and just follow the steps from the win7 thread?

    thanks.
     
  2. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #2 HotCarl, Jan 10, 2010
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    As long as you are using the COA key on the sticker on your computer...and you are using it on the version of Windows 7 it is for...then there should be no problem.

    Make sure you are installing the correct version of Windows. If you cant get Windows to accept your COA key, then you can probably just use one of the SLP keys from around here... The BIOS in your computer (if it is a PC that came with Win7) should be SLIC 2.1 compliant, so you just need to locate a HP certificate and use any SLP key in the SLP keys thread that matches the edition of Windows 7 you are installing (e.g. Ultimate/Professional/Home Premium/etc...). An HP certificate and SLP keys for your edition of Windows 7 can all be located easily via a forum search. ;)



    EDIT: If you want (and you are sure you are doing everything correctly and Windows wont activate) you can call MS and do a phone activation with your COA key...
     
  3. helga

    helga MDL Novice

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    HotCarl,

    Thanks for the help. I will try another iso and double check it is the same as the version i have installed. i just did a factory restore.. can i pull the certificates from there?

    a post on the mydigitallife.net site (i'd post it but i am too knew still) made me wonder about the ei.cfg and if there was a difference between sold-in-store and pre-installed windows.

    it commented that you can change the version by editing ei.cfg from Windows 7 RTM retail ISO:

    [EditionID]
    Ultimate
    [Channel]
    Retail
    [VL]
    0

    ei.cfg of Windows 7 RTM OEM ISO:

    [EditionID]
    Ultimate
    [Channel]
    OEM
    [VL]
    0

    thanks again.
     
  4. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #5 HotCarl, Jan 10, 2010
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    Yes, you can do that but you will only be able to use your COA key (on the sticker on your PC) with the edition of Windows 7 that the PC originally came with (it will say on the sticker).

    Therefore, you will either need to extract the certificate from the Windows 7 install (via the SLIC Dump Toolkit and various other tools available at MDL via search). With that certificate (or locate a HP certificate somewhere on the MDL forum via search) you can install any version of Windows 7 you want to.

    For example, you could install Windows 7 Ultimate.
    You could then install an HP certificate (use the program I link to below or the command slmgr.vbs -ilc "C:\locationOfCert\HP_Cert.xrm-ms" - where "C:\locationOfCert\" is where your certificate is located and "HP_Cert.xrm-ms" is the name of your HP certificate file. The certificate file will be a ".xrm-ms" file.
    Then you could install a SLP key that you select from the list of SLP keys (in the stickies) that corresponds to the edition of Windows 7 you installed. In our example it was Ultimate, so you would select one of the Ultimate keys from the list and then use the program I link to below (or the command slmgr.vbs -ipk <key here> ) to install the key.

    Don't enter a key when you are installing Windows. Enter the key after, either as I describe above, or via a program. My version of O7A (available here: http://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/173828? ) will allow you to install a custom certificate (click the "Advanced Options" button) and will allow you to install a custom product key (select "Custom" from the "Product Key" combo box, then select the "Install Product Key only" check box to have the program only install the product key when you click [Install]. Install the certificate first, then the product key. Dont try to do both at once... :p ;)

    I hope that helps :)
     
  5. helga

    helga MDL Novice

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    wow... awesome info. thank you for the help! i dont care what version i get... i only need windows for a few things that absolutely won't run on ubuntu.
     
  6. HSChronic

    HSChronic MDL Expert

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    COA keys do not work they never have and never will because they are not real keys. You need to use a SLP key to activate your copy of windows after you install your HP cert. The BIOS on the laptop already has a SLIC 2.1 table if it came with Win7, you just need to download a clean ISO and delete the ei.cfg if it exists then install the version of 7 you want after wiping your partitions.

    After the install just download the HP certificate for 7 and follow the instructions in the win 7 repository thread on how to install and activate using the OEM method.
     
  7. vladxed666

    vladxed666 MDL Senior Member

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    what the hell are you talking about?
    Get your facts straight before declaring something...
    Check my screenshot...
     

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  8. MasterHacker

    MasterHacker MDL Junior Member

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    Oem Coa keys are real keys that activate with a phone call to ms. I have used an Oem Coa from a new HP computer with Windows 7 on a custum built computer with a motherboard that could not be modded.
     
  9. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    I think HSChronic was trying to say that you cannot use an OEM:COA as an SLP key
     
  10. vladxed666

    vladxed666 MDL Senior Member

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    I don't think so... its very clear..
    "coa keys don't work never have and never will... NOT REAL KEYS!"
     
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  11. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    #12 FreeStyler, Jan 11, 2010
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    Theoretically he is right in some part, OEM:COA keys can not be used for online or offline (OEM:SLP) activation since XP SP1 was released... just phone activation seems to do activate OEM:COA keys (or is this changed with Win7?)
    Anyway, the mainstream of users here come to look for OEM:SLP aka offline activation, so it isn't that hard to suggest he meant what Hazar said

    BTW, watch your attitude in your post(s)... everybody is trying to help
     
  12. vladxed666

    vladxed666 MDL Senior Member

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    alright sorry.. I was just so shocked because he seemed so sure.. and he stated it as a fact loud and clear...
     
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  13. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Ignorance does prompt frustration... but it was probably a mistake on his part, I think HSChronic knows his stuff about keys etc, he was probably just in a rush! :eek:
     
  14. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #15 HotCarl, Jan 11, 2010
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    ^^My post that someone who is obviously illiterate repped me down for. They couldnt even spell "wrong" correctly. I got repped down for "qrong" lol.

    Who ever said that you could use a COA key as a SLP key? Where the hell did that come from? ROFL. I said he could either (a) use his COA key if he installs the version of Windows 7 the key is for, and activates online like it is a retail key; or (b) he can install any version of Windows 7 he wants and use a certificate and SLP key. It does not get any clearer than that. Sorry I didnt spell everything out word-for-word in my last comment, but I thought that it was obvious that he would need to activate his Windows 7 online if he used anything but a SLP key...and would only use the certificate if he was going to install a different version of Windows 7 (than his PC originally came with) and use a SLP key. ROFL! Helga, the new person who I was helping seems to have gotten it just fine, yet people who are around here all the time are in an uproar about something they somehow misconstrued out of what I said, even they know how things like this work already..c'mon people...how silly.

    People need to read things first. I got repped down because someone didnt read what I said obviously. I dont care about rep, but it just goes to show that people dont even bother reading my comments before saying or doing something...lol. Some people are so eager to rep me down for being "wrong" when I have not said anything incorrect. I would recommend reading things first before making incorrect judgments ;) I just think it is funny that someone has to negative rep me...they arent man enough to come out in the thread and say something, or call me out...they have to do it anonymously so no one knows who did it. I welcome a good educated conversation, back and fourth...nothing should have to resort to an argument. We can have a good discussion about things and everyone can learn something. If you think I am wrong then say something so we can discuss it...why hide, there is nothing to be scared of? lol :p
     
  15. helga

    helga MDL Novice

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    I did indeed understand your either or reasoning HotCarl. I am hoping to go w/ my COA key as that seems the easiet, but the directions aren't too bad if I have to go the other route. I wish I could report my success but so far I havent been able to dl a good iso. the torrent I just downloaded from the Windows 7 thread seems wrong. Its a 3gb iso but when I extract it to try to edit the ei.cfg there is only 1 boot folder (with only a few files within) and nothing else. Basically it doesn't look like what I am used to seeing in a windows disk. I downloaded 2 different ones now and they both look like that. any ideas what is up with that?

    I'll give you a little cred back for being qrong.
     
  16. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    #17 FreeStyler, Jan 11, 2010
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    @HotCarl
    I do think it is no longer possible for other members to rep down, last thing i read is that a rep down can only been done by mods and/or admins. (and it was not me ;) )

    @admin and other mods
    Am i wrong here?
     
  17. oldude

    oldude MDL Member

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    It should look like this
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  18. HotCarl

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    #20 HotCarl, Jan 12, 2010
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