I need some guidance on testing LTSC or LSTB on a small machine.

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  1. Ontology

    Ontology MDL Novice

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    Hello,

    I just purchased a small Chuwi 10 Hi Air hybrid and I would like run Windows 10 LTSC or LSTB on it for work purposes.

    I'm wondering if all the normal functions like the touch screen and pen ability would still work with this bare version of Windows?

    Also which variation of Windows 10 is better in this case and how do I get started installing it? LTSC or LSTB since I'm not sure what's the difference?

    I understand that I should download the ISO and then use KMS tools to activate it. But which ISO file (where to download?) and how do I activate it with KMS tools afterwards?

    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    If you ask these kind of questions then maybe it is easier just to stick with version that came with the unit...

    Yes, touch will work fine (as will do anything else on either LTSB 2016 or LTSC 2019)
     
  3. Ontology

    Ontology MDL Novice

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    I understand your negative perspective. But without questions there wouldn’t be any community since communities don’t revolve around an individual and they instead tend to serve a broad range of users including people like me. I’m trying to learn here and not be judged according to what you believe is a good level of knowledge according to you. Because I’m not you...
     
  4. pcnavarra

    pcnavarra MDL Member

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    should work way faster then my centrino lappy in these tread, post #37 : https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...-on-ltsc-2019-17763.80054/page-2#post-1541090
     
  5. Ontology

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  7. Ontology

    Ontology MDL Novice

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    Yes, it’s definitely a slow one, but extremely well built for $200.00 and lightweight.

    I just need something to do Zoom meetings and run Office among a few other things which require me to use Windows.

    I figured out how to install the ISO image and will try to do so when I get home. I’ll report back with how the installation went.
     
  8. Enthousiast

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    Code:
    Version {SKU}              : Windows 10 Home {101}
    Architecture               : 32 Bit {via AR:4}
    Build/Update Revision      : 17763 {rs5_release} / 678
    Release Identifier         : 1809
    Build Information          : 17763.1.x86fre.rs5_release.180914-1434
    Reference Version          : 10.0.17763.1
    Code:
    Full Name                  : Intel{R} Atom{TM} CPU Z3740 @ 1.33GHz {x1}
    Description                : x64 Family 6 Model 55 Stepping 3
    Architecture               : 32/64 Bit
    Max Clock Speed            : 1,33 GHz {Rounded Value}
    Manufacturer ID String     : GenuineIntel
    CPUID Signature            : 030673
    Revision                   : 3703
    Cores/Threads              : 4 / 4
    Sockets/CPU's Present      : 1
    Virtualization Mode        : Enabled
    L2 Cache Size              : 2 MB
    running fine:)
     
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    little jewel bro congrats :D
     
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    Really an 32-bit OS installed?
     
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  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    yep, from factory it had 8.1 core 32bit asus t100ta with a 32GB emmc.

    I had to reinstall a t200ta, x64 os but 64GB emmc, and even that ran fine on a similar laptablet.

    It's my wife her t100ta, so, i am not allowed to tinker with it;):D
     
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  12. Ontology

    Ontology MDL Novice

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    #12 Ontology, Sep 2, 2019
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    I made some progress installing Windows 10 LTSC 2019 on this machine.

    Here are my notes:


    First figure out:
    • If you should use a 32-bit(x86) or a 64-bit(x64) architecture ISO image.
    • If your bios is MBR(Legacy) or UEFI Bios.
    You can figure out this information by entering the systems information area (msinfo32) and looking at your system type and BIOS mode. The information related to these two values are there as the 8th and 13th entries on the list. The bios type will play a part when loading up the ISO image into Rufus. (In my case the Chuwi is x64 and has an UEFI bios)

    It's important to also know your drive type since it's an option that I think has to be specified during the ISO to USB imaging process? There are some helpful articles out there if you search for MBR and GPT differences and how to check what you have. (This Chuwi machine is GPT)

    I used Rufus to load up the Windows 10 LTSC ISO into a 16GB USB drive.

    I looked into the Windows 10 SVF repository on this forum and got what I think is a good ISO image from there. (thank you @Sajjo)

    From there I did the following:

    1. Opened Rufus
    2. Selected Windows 10 ISO image
    3. Set standard windows installation option under image options
    4. Set target system to UEFI-CSM
    5. Changed file system to NTFS
    6. Cluster system set to default
    7. Clicked run

    Then I formatted all drives during the process of installing Windows 10 LTSC and went right into the installation of Windows until completion.

    I immediately used KMS_VL_ALL to activate Windows 10. You can find a thread regarding this tool in this forum as well.

    The negatives so far are that the touch screen, pen, screen rotation aren't working. So even though I got the operating system installed, there's some work to be done to make this machine usable for the every day tasks I purchased it for.

    The system does seem a bit snappier which is a lot to say considering the weak CPU that it came with, but that's probably because of the minimal bloatware with Windows 10 LTSC.


    Thank you.
     
  13. Enthousiast

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    #13 Enthousiast, Sep 2, 2019
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    Look for the proper drivers, if they exist for normal 10 (ltsc is normal 10 enterprise with long term updates support, no edge, no cortana, no store and no feature upgrades, those are the only differences), then those should work on LTSC too.

    Win 10 doesn't need csm either.

    When you repartition the system drive during windows setup it will format it NTFS by default.
     
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  14. Ontology

    Ontology MDL Novice

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  16. murphy78

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    Everything should function the same, but if you're expecting any Windows apps you won't have them. It is the same as other builds minus the store, cortana, and the Windows Store Apps.