In need of a simple way to remotely shut down my sons computer.

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  1. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    #1 Rab, Mar 20, 2011
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    Not sure if this is the right place or for that mater if this is allowed or not.

    Ready or not...

    I have a son that thinks he already knows everything in the world (who didn't when he was 13yrs old?) and in his opinion, there's no need for homework when there's a computer full of games right in front of him.

    So I need a way to remotely shut down his computer hard and fast... any ideas?
    Preferably without him ever knowing I'm monitoring his activities.

    As for those of that might think this is ethically wrong, my son has ADHD and needs monitoring if ever to do what he is told, otherwise he'll just get distracted and even further behind in school. And he is in a bad shape in that category already, so drastic measures is needed.

    I need a simple program for monitoring that will work in a Windows 7 x64 x86 environment (ultimate on all machines) and I'll need a fast way to kill the computer dead in its track in an instant if a warning is not adhered to.

    Things i tried so far:
    1. TeamWiewer; not stealthy enough. God all mighty what a riot that raised!!
    2. shutdown /r /m \\<computername> /f; Failed miserably with a <5> Access denied.
    3. Edited "Local Policies>user rights>Force shut down from remote system" to give this computer the correct user rights; Failed due to not being able to save changes (or at least that's what I think it meant). Still gives <5> Access denied.




    Now if this is against forum rules I do apologize and ask Admin to lock and, if needed, edit this thread. A heads up on what rule I have missed or misread would be a nice touch to.


    Problem solved, I now can remotely do just about everything I need or want.

    The problem? Stupid really, I forgot I renamed the Admin account when he inherited the machine from me.

    /Rab
     
  2. odinthegreatone

    odinthegreatone MDL Junior Member

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    You could try using netsupport, that way it allows you to view what your son is doing and shut down any apps you don't want him on, or ban apps from launchings.
     
  3. protix

    protix MDL Novice

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    Do you use an iPhone or an Android phone? I use the app Mobile PC Monitor (Google it) on all of my family members' computers so that I can monitor and do all kinds of stuff from my smartphone. You install software on the actual computer and then link it with your phone. You can shutdown, reboot, kill specific processes, etc, all from your phone. I also think there's a web interface on the site, after logging in, that lets you do all of that stuff from another computer. It's free and I highly recommend it.
     
  4. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    #4 Rab, Mar 20, 2011
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    And this is "stealthy"?

    I ask because I didn't exagurate in the riot part above...:eek:

    /Rab
     
  5. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    This is one of those "linked to a server in the cloud" apps?
    If so, I'm not interrested.
    If local only, Google here we go...
     
  6. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    switch the power off
     
  7. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    That woud be nice.
    I'm an electician and that is a feasable option.

    Lets se now. Hook up a hidden camcorder with optical fibre and wide lens. Check!
    Hook up a switchboard and a few relays, pull some new cables in the rented appartment. Check!
    Buy a coupple of spare motherboards, harddrives, memorymodules and VGA-cards. Check!

    Now to the downside... not partculary stealthy if dad starts to build a truckload of things in the room and drilling in the cealing...
    So. Failure on that suggestion.

    :rolleyes:

    /Rab.
     
  8. john123

    john123 MDL Novice

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    you can use win7 remote desktop connection to login and then shut down your son's computer.
     
  9. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    #9 Rab, Mar 20, 2011
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    That for reasons unknown doesn't work. I have no idea why, but it doesn't.
    Parhaps the X86 X64 mix or the Thompson router my ISP forces me to use.
    A router from which I'm basically locked out and have no real configuration privileges on I'm afraid.

    Other than that I see no reason for it not to work, but never the less. It doesn't.

    /Rab
     
  10. cengizhan

    cengizhan MDL Senior Member

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    create a shortcut to "shutdown /s /f /p" to some folder. run it from remote desktop. i am using this method to shutdown my remote machine.
     
  11. Enigma256

    Enigma256 MDL Senior Member

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  12. zahnoo

    zahnoo MDL Senior Member

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    I use RemoteReboot.exe to remotely shutdown computers on my LAN. I can't post links yet but if you Google RemoreReboot.exe free you'll go find it; it's by IntelliAdmin. I prefer the older version which is not NetworkAdministrator.exe.
     
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  13. dareckibmw

    dareckibmw MDL Expert

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    Take his computer or just a keyboard away everyday - (admin) Dad's rights. :biggrin:
     
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  14. Rab

    Rab MDL Member

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    Tried that, but that too effectly started that riot thingy again... :eek:
    Besides, he uses the computer for his homework, or at least he is supose to.


    /Rab.
     
  15. Enigma256

    Enigma256 MDL Senior Member

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    #16 Enigma256, Mar 21, 2011
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    Well, I use shutdown very frequently (along with magic packets to turn on a computer) in the process of remotely managing a number of computers, and I've never had a problem. "shutdown -s -m \\foobar" works when shutting down any version of Windows from any version of Windows. And it should work for you...

    By admin rights, I mean specifically this:
    1) On your (source) computer, you are logged in using username "A" and password "B".
    2) On his (target) computer, there exists an account with the *exact* same username "A" (and I mean username, not the display name) and *exact* same password "B", and this account is a member of the Administrators group.

    Here are a few things you could try to see if the problem is with the admin privs or something specific to shutdown:
    1) Try connecting to that computer's registry remotely from the registry editor. If you have admin privs there, this should work just fine (and it won't ask you for a login pass).
    2) Or, you could try connecting to that computer's management console (open "Computer Management", select the "Connect to another computer" from the "Action" menu) (again, it won't ask you for a login pass if there is a matching admin account on the other end)

    If you're able to do either one of these two things, then you have the right admin privs and I am at a loss for why shutdown does not work...

    Oh, and you shouldn't have to fiddle with specific user rights: any user created as an Administrator, even using the friendly, dumbed-down user control panel, should have the necessary shutdown privs by default.
     
  16. doc

    doc MDL Novice

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    Hello Rab

    Perhaps this is something for you: salfeld.com/software/parentalcontrol/
     
  17. jabberwocky

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    #18 jabberwocky, Mar 21, 2011
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    A good firend of mine has 2 young boys (4 and 7yrs) the 7 year old has been diagnosed with ADHD and asperger syndrome . the younger one showing all the same symptoms , even thier mum (my friend) is hyperactive out of nessessity .she was given an Idea that worked , her oldest boy would come home and go on the PC to play games and surf non stop for hours ,talking does no good as his concentration is elsewhere ,and trying to stop him to explain would result in tantrums . she tried this Idea , she made here own desktop wallpaper ,plain backround with some words (rules)on it explaining that the home was under new rules and a list of rules one of which was that there would be no computer after school until he had eaten his food and that the computer would be forcably shut down if he stayed on it for more than 1-1/2hrs. she also printed out the rules and posted them around the house.
    he came home that day and immediately threw a tantrum .it was explained to him that the new rules stood for every one .
    he ignored and went on the PC ,his mum pulled the plug (fuse) .he blew up and trashed his room . she did not give in . she stuck to her guns that the rules were there to stay ,and if he broke them ,the PC would go .
    3 days of hell ,them by the fifth day,he was coming home and going outside to play ,ate his food ,then was allowed on the PC , she still gets a little problem as he sometimes stays on the PC for more than the alloted time ,but its early days . I know this family personally and the lad is a handful ,does not keep still for more thaan 2 seconds . but he is transformed as far as this is concerned , his mum plans to introduce additonal rules in a few months to add even more structure and predictability to his life .
    I know this reply is not a PC based technical one ,but ADHD is a nightmare for all involved ,and Doctors (at least in my area) would rather just hand out pills ,and not be forthcoming with advice .
    ADHD demands an ordered lifestyle ,but it is rarely achieved .
     
  18. NICK@NUMBER11

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    shutdown /s /f -m \\computername -t 30