Hello, A new member, please bear with me as I navigate the site. I just purchased Windows 8. I followed the instructions of some of the threads I saw below with no success. I am also not very technical When I got to Java I downloaded both off-line versions as recommended. At the bottom of the screen it indicated installation success. I then closed all browsers and re-started my machine. Java does not show in my programs and when I went to the test Java site it indicated no programs downloaded, but gave me a link to activate plug-in through Firefox. I wasn't able to follow their instructions as the first procedure (click on red box didn't show). Hope this makes sense. Thanks!