Interesting Find: Game releasing end of July lists W8 as a supported OS

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by Aj6627, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Aj6627

    Aj6627 MDL Novice

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    I was looking at the listing for this on Steam since I saw it was added and was on sale. I noticed at the bottom it says under minimum requirements for OS: Windows 8/7 SP1/Vista SP2 I'm not sure if there's any known time frame for RTM, but this could be an indication of when it might come around. store.steampowered(dot)com/app/211120/ Apparently there's a post requirement to post links, so if someone could linkify it as a reply, it'd be appreciated.
     
  2. roirraW "edor" ehT

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  3. Fraggy

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    Yeah, they maybe tested it on Release Preview.
     
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  4. smartboyhw

    smartboyhw MDL Language Packs Specialist

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    That is NOT interesting. Windows 8 is supposed to be RTMed on mid- to end-July, and game manufacturers will need to test it either on 8400, 8431 or 8500.
     
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  6. Yen

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    This is no surprise at all. Windows 8 is no development and no new operating system.
    It's windows 7 with a Lego UI to make money with apps.
     
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  7. roirraW "edor" ehT

    roirraW "edor" ehT MDL Addicted

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    That explains why the startup and shutdown are so much faster and the boot GUI (the new GUI for choosing advanced boot options) is so different.
     
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  8. Yen

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    No, Lego design just needs less resources and login is available a split second sooner. At my SSD I noticed no significant speed improvement at bootup.
    The development step XP-->Vista brought this huge miserably programmed resource hungry organisation of boot process / memory management / I-O handling and initializing of GUI.
    Faults have been eliminated at w7, organisation improved.
    The speed improvement of 8 is due to improvement of I-O and 'Legolisation' of UI. I-O improvement had been denied at w7 with intent to let w8 seem to be faster. Poor design needs less resources. From dream scene to lego, this is no OS improvement this is GUI fiddling. W8 is no innovative OS it is the way for M$ to the app world. Hence they push RTM. Each day they wait they lose and google play will extend its advance.
    M$ doesn't care about the OS itself, they want apps.
     
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  9. roirraW "edor" ehT

    roirraW "edor" ehT MDL Addicted

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    With an SSD why WOULD you notice a difference??? That's a flawed argument. It's with a hard drive, which is still what most people have because the price of SSDs still isn't quite low enough for the masses, or for the $:GB ratio, that people can tell a huge difference.

    Further, with Classic Shell v3.51 automatically bypassing Metro after 1-2 seconds on my nearly four year old laptop with 8GB of RAM, the Desktop is available much quicker than was before, too. And then there's always the shut down/restart/hibernation speed. I haven't installed RP on my Desktop yet, only CP, since I practically live at my girlfriend's. :) But it's only a year and a half old technology so it's probably even faster even though it "only" has 4GB of RAM.

    We get it, you don't like W8. Personally, when I have something that gives me much faster response, I don't like to stick with what doesn't. In your case, you don't observe the difference since you're on SSD. Me, I need way too much hard drive space (about 5.2 TB on my desktop) to spend my $ on SSD yet, but that'll change eventually.
     
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  10. Yen

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    W8 will have its customers who like it, no question. And I don't want to convince otherwise, you have your own valid reasons why you like it.
    My worries are that the huge M$ company will jeopardize the success of Android, a open source platform, which is IMHO the only right way to gain innovation which will be our all benefit for the future.

    My replies which are w8 related reflect these worries and I wish nothing more than a new alternative at corporate PCs.
    What might seem a overreaction at some replies (also to you at other threads) is just my own desire to fight for this idea and never a personal attack.
    To me w8 is a huge step backwards and I don't like the idea to have apps integrated there.
    I like w7 you prefer w8 :hug2:.... ;)
     
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  11. Yen

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    I guess he's meant w7 compared to w8 both on SSD is flawed (hmm... I call it up to date hardware you get a fast sys SSD for a few bucks already), because on HDD w8 is faster than w7 he's said. :confused:

    To me it's an argument if w8 should boot faster on HDD than w7 then it's due to the lego UI which is loaded and initialized a bit faster also EFI boot could be a reason. When leaving off the GUI then it would boot even faster. This is called back to the roots, or I simply say steps backwards... w10 = DOS reinvented (this time with apps). :D
    I rather would spend my money for a new sys SSD than for w8, but ...
     
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  12. roirraW "edor" ehT

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    #14 roirraW "edor" ehT, Jul 11, 2012
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    Well, I do have and like an Android phone, and enjoy using it to the best of (and even beyond) it's original capabilities. My personal belief that usually that the best is actually some middle ground between opposing extremes. I don't believe Android or iOS, or even MacOS X could be what it is today without Microsoft having done what they've done to Windows over the years. Of course, I think it's known or believed by all that Windows wouldn't be what it was without the Mac in the first place, or Xerox before either. All things fit into the fold and have their place. As has been said by others, MS and Windows will someday be no more. Competition is good. It makes everyone else try to be better. I hate to see almost any company go down (even Microsoft) because it just makes it easier for those who are left to turn into: monopoly, dictatorships, stagnant, dry, boring, you name it.

    I know I get too heated about this subject, too. :D

    What I meant was that to say that Windows 8 isn't any faster, when you're using an SSD is a minority situation. The majority of people are still using hard drives, and probably still will be for at least the next 2-3 years. There's a huge difference in loading time in Windows 8 versus Windows 7 with a hard drive even if there isn't with an SSD.

    Hey, I'm all for SSDs. They are just still not accessible enough for the average user. This may change over the next five years, maybe even less. The best, reliable ones are about the same cost now as hard drives were about 6-7 years ago or so, but they keep getting cheaper. I'm not against SSDs not in the least. It's just that when I do have the money to spare on hardware, and intend on buying any kind of drive, it's my choice to go for as large hard drives as I can get as possible for the least amount of money. And even with the advances so far I'm not willing to use an SSD for the constantly changing information that I tend to store on my hard drives.

    Whatever the reasons W8 is faster on a hard drive, I'm just happy it is. Neither my laptop or desktop have UEFI, so I don't know if that could be a factor for me. To me it's a step sideways, a different perspective. Might Metro completely fail? Yes, it could. Am I willing to give it a realistic chance, especially since I can still use the Desktop interface (and that's all I do), ignoring Metro for now while still having the fast startup times, including loading my Desktop? Yes.

    Some people are saying to "keep things simple" as an argument against Windows 8, some people are saying that Windows 8 is being too simplified as an argument against it, too. There's certainly no shortage of opinions on the subject. :)
     
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  13. jayblok

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    @ _alex_ , why did you black out the blu ray title? is it Pron? :haha: HUH HUN?
     
  14. _spinner_

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    huh... no i practisize.... no watch at that :D

    'cause is a so called "out of law mkv" so....

    have a nice day baby;)
     
  15. Ith

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    or one can say windows 8 has one of the best backward compablity:D