Internet connection and MS account REQUIRED for windows 11 home...

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    #2 Mellipes, Jul 1, 2021
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    As I have stated before, one thing M$ doesnt say about a feature of windows 11, is that its better at data collection. To do so they need you connected to the web to send that data.
     
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    Personally, I distrust them due to the actual lying.

    "required" != press ALT + F4 to bypass.

    If MS is going to lie they could at least say something like "Sign up for an optional MS account to greatly improve your Windows 11 experience." Still absolutely full of crap, but at least its combining choice with a subjective statement.
     
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    #10 zaphod77, Jul 7, 2021
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    Just because you can bypass it in the current build doesn't mean they won't fix it in the final.

    It's the requiring of internet access to even finish setup supposedly that's the issue. say someone wants a computer to do homework and print. This doesn't require an internet hookup. But your shiny new computer and printer and copy of office is worthless unless you have internet at home. That's the complaint.

    I know you can start with an offline account for windows 10. But i'm talking about windows 11. which they outright say it IS required for, and that you cannot complete setup without it.
     
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    If you want to see something interesting, look into the Windows 11 install.wim file while it is mounted with DISM++. There are a mountain of networking drivers in the optional components section. its pretty obvious that MS is going out of its way to ensure that at the very least your system can see a wireless signal while installing.

    I disabled all networking through BIOS and installed Windows 11. The installer does not even mention setting up a MS account so for now at least the big bypass is simply completely disabling networking prior to install/upgrade.
     
  10. RobrPatty

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    How do you disable all networking in bios?

    NVM you just disable all network controllers in bios.
     
  11. RobrPatty

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    Does this include TPM bypass?
     
  12. nosirrahx

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    Of course not, that is just a bypass for MS account creation that should work even if they disable ALT + F4 to bypass.
     
  13. ThomasMann

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    I do not understand that... Why on earth would ms give YOU a choice???
     
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    Well, in their defense they are definitely pretending that they aren't.
     
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    i dont know how you think you can print anything on a new computer without internet because printers dont come with driver cds anymore
     
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    I wonder what will have to do technicians when they receive a computer to format and install Windows 11 home edition (automatically selected edition due bios license) they will have to request each client main microsoft account in order to finish the setup or what?
     
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    You know, that is a fantastic point. I remember when this started with Office. It was so nice when you could buy someone Office and install it without needing the owner of the system at any step in the process.

    "I need your Microsoft credentials." cannot become a normalized part of the support process due to what a horrific security issue that is.
     
  18. jd4mail

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    If the ALT-F4 method doesn't work this is another suggestion:
    H T T PS : / / winaero.com/how-to-install-windows-11-with-local-account
    (sorry can't post proper links yet)