Is It Possible To "Share" KMS Activated Win8?

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by FaiKee, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    #1 FaiKee, Aug 21, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2012
  2. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    Some time ago my friend told me that some OEM guys managed to move a VHD with KMS-activated win8 to another mahine and the win8 remains activated.

    A bit later he told me another story, those guys managed to use the spp datas of a KMS-activated win8 to make another win8 on a different machine to become activated - I don't know if he had told me everything about the trick, so, if some guys are interested, you could try it out and see if it would work. :D
     
  3. Bornung1

    Bornung1 MDL Member

    Oct 9, 2010
    147
    37
    10
    Hep hey ;)
    I would like to give it a shoot, but my machine is phone activated, so i can't try this, unless someone could upload the ssp folder from a KMS-activated win8.

    Anyone who would like to do that?

    Cheers all :smoking:
     
  4. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    Even if someone uploads the spp folder, the HDD driver spec of his machine has to be the same as yours.:p
     
  5. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

    Sep 4, 2009
    2,232
    1,795
    90
    All the specs or only the volume serial?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    Better to play it safe first: all the specs.

    As we all know, updating a HDD driver would de-activate, so if it works for everything identical, then we could try out further. :D
     
  7. Bornung1

    Bornung1 MDL Member

    Oct 9, 2010
    147
    37
    10
    #7 Bornung1, Aug 27, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2012
    I thought you said i only have to change the harddisk volume serial.

    FaiKee wrote "Better to play it safe first: all the specs.
    As we all know, updating a HDD driver would de-activate, so if it works for everything identical, then we could try out further."

    Ok i understand :D
     
  8. nodnar

    nodnar MDL Addicted

    Oct 15, 2011
    925
    587
    30
    hm,

    if any member kms activated on a currently available
    sata hdd that is real cheap, it could put w8 out of
    business, if it works..

    i would rather pay for a cheap hdd, than for a m$
    licence any day and twice on sundays..
    ;)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
    Staff Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    9,304
    66,112
    300
    #9 Daz, Aug 27, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    I know exactly how to activate multiple virtual machines, but real hardware is a different story at the moment.

    Save this as a vbs file and run it on the activated system. If you then run it on the system you're trying to activate and the UUID is different then you won't pass as genuine.
    Code:
    strComputer = "."
    Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("SELECT * FROM Win32_ComputerSystemProduct")
    For Each objItem in colItems
    Wscript.Echo objItem.UUID
    Next
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    #10 FaiKee, Aug 27, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    (OP)
    Even if it works, it's only for 180 days, MS is giving out Ent. Evals free until next Aug. + 90 days.......no, I don't think it would make them out of business. :D

    Maybe those OEM guys has to do something more, I don't know, what's interesting was I also saw on PCBeta a guy said he could use the spp files to activate another win8 on another machine, and he will upload the necessary files...... and then boom! Everything in PCBeta about activation were all taken down. :(
     
  11. urie

    urie Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 21, 2007
    8,645
    3,003
    300
    Won't work even on two so called identical machines MAC addresses are different OEM is different thing altogether as regards to activation.
     
  12. chuckles

    chuckles MDL Junior Member

    Oct 29, 2007
    95
    26
    0
    #12 chuckles, Aug 28, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
    With to much time on my hands today, I decided to test this with VMware on 3 kms activated installations. I know this worked before with OEM activated Windows 7, Server 2008r2, Vista, Server 2008, Xp and server 2003.

    Here is what I did and the results.

    Virtual Machines all previously activated and created in Windows 7 with vmware workstation 8.04
    Windows 8 Enterprise X64
    Windows 8 Pro x32
    Windows Server 2012

    Then I did clean install of Windows 8 Ent x64 Eval on two identical machines (same mainboard, processor, Ram, case, and cpu) Intel core two duo 3.0, 8gb ram, 22in monitors, and mainboard Asus p5q pro.

    NOTE: one of these two machines was used to create the original virtual machines with windows 7 and VMware workstation 8.04.

    Installed vmware workstation 9, Copied virtual machines to the 2 computers.

    Started each, clicked I moved it when prompted, and checked activation. All three virtual machines, on both computers, were still activated.

    Then stopped the machines and in vmware, I updated all hardware to version 9 and restarted.
    All three machines on both computers were still activated.

    Did windows update and all three on both computers updated successfully and after several restarts remained activated.

    Then I decided to check on two machines with different host hardware.

    1. WINDOWS 7 Home Basic X64, Intel Celeron 2.6, 4gb Ram, 40in lcd, and main board Asus P5G41T-M LX.

    Installed vmware workstation 9, Copied virtual machines to the computer.

    The virtual machine windows 8 Ent X64 I had to reduce the ram from 4gb to 2 gb.

    Started each, clicked I moved it when prompted, and checked activation. All three virtual machines were still activated.

    Then stopped the machines and in vmware, I updated all hardware to version 9 by clicking the link under edit virtual machine settings and choosing change on this machine and restarted.

    All three machines were still activated.

    Did windows update and all three updated successfully and after several restarts remained activated.

    2. Windows Server 2008r2 with AMD Athlon II X4 620 2.6, 16gb Ram, 17in monitor, and mainboard Asus M5A88-M.

    Installed vmware workstation 9, Copied virtual machines to the computer.

    Started each, clicked I moved it when prompted, and checked activation. All three virtual machines were still activated.

    Then stopped the machines and in vmware, I updated all hardware to version 9 and restarted.

    All three machines on both computers were still activated.

    Did windows update and all three on both computers updated successfully and after several restarts remained activated.

    I don't know if it's any use or not, but here it is.

    Tomorrow I may also have too much time so I might try converting these to VHDs and see if they run on hyper-v and remain activated.
     
  13. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

    Jul 24, 2009
    4,305
    5,796
    150
    Tks for all the tests, it's encouraging. :D

    btw, I read in the "backup/restore thread" that some guys didn't get their activation back, my guess is that maybe when they try to re-install, they formated the drive, and this could lead to change of volume serial. My suggestion therefore is that if you backup, also backup the volume serial, and check that it is the same when re-installing. ;)
     
  14. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

    Aug 19, 2009
    1,773
    1,078
    60
    What happens when you move your activated VMware VM's to Virtual Box or Qemu?
     
  15. chuckles

    chuckles MDL Junior Member

    Oct 29, 2007
    95
    26
    0
    Converting to vhd and trying to run on Hyper-v did not work. It was un activated.

    So everything must be tied to HD IDs, as previously stated, not other hardware.
     
  16. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
    Staff Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    9,304
    66,112
    300
    #16 Daz, Aug 28, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
    That's the only reason it worked in your tests, as it's the same VM. What I did in my tests was create fresh virtual machines on different hardware and then applied backed up activation files from the original VM. I successfully activated all of the VM's because of what I mentioned earlier in the thread, the UUID. Apply the same UUID and backed up activation files to a virtual machine and you should get "genuine" status.

    EDIT:
    Just use VirtualBox and open your virtual machines .vbox file and you can edit the "Machine uuid" as well as the "HardDisk uuid" (if needed).
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  17. Mr Jinje

    Mr Jinje MDL Expert

    Aug 19, 2009
    1,773
    1,078
    60
    Any complications running the same UUID on multiple hdd's at the same time, can you have both machines up and running without any virtual collisions
     
  18. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
    Staff Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    9,304
    66,112
    300
    As it's only for virtual machines then you can only apply it onto one OS per system, at least with VirtualBox. If you try to use the same UUID on multiple VM's then VirtualBox won't display more than one. I don't know if VMware is any different.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...