Is there a fix for the obviously broken start menu search yet?

Discussion in 'Application Software' started by TimmyP, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. TimmyP

    TimmyP MDL Novice

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    Simple example. I have Kodi installed. It is clearly listed in "All Apps" when I browse the start menu.

    Press windows key, start typing "kodi" only to find NOTHING. Settings, some apps, misc. folders are found...but not apps listed in the start menu.

    I have rebuilt everything pertaining to windows search and even reinstalled. Nothing. Same problem on 5 machines.

    Windows 8.x was FINE. Results were found instantly. This is the buggiest OS MS has made in a long time!

    What the hell?
     
  2. AzTec

    AzTec MDL Member

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  3. Mansome

    Mansome MDL Novice

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    This is actually a kodi issue not a Windows 10 issue. I been testing this. If you upgrade to Windows 10 or use a provision package on a clean install of Windows 10 it wont find Kodi on the start menu and sometimes not even in the programs and features menu but its still installed. My thought on this is that Kodi does not install like other apps do.
     
  4. AzTec

    AzTec MDL Member

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    #4 AzTec, Sep 1, 2015
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    i download it and installed it on windows 10, ran with no problems as you can see above

    The biggest problem with Media Centers, They are useless for large collections
     
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  5. hanzzon2

    hanzzon2 MDL Member

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    #5 hanzzon2, Sep 1, 2015
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    For me the search is completely broken, even in a clean install of Win10 LTSB N
    Just as broken as the "never install drivers" setting, for this clean install I did it without network cable.
    Then changed the setting for drivers and not until then did I connect to the network.
    PuTTY which I'm searching for is right there in my users "Downloads" folder, and index is up to date...
    If I click on the "Search my stuff" & "File Explorer" button in the search results then it does find the file, it's bizarre!
    I think they must have changed it so that it only shows apps that are actually installed and have shortcuts in the start-menu?
     

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  6. fardeen

    fardeen MDL Member

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    did u remove watermark my mistake? i once removed watermark and it completely broke windows search for me
     
  7. hanzzon2

    hanzzon2 MDL Member

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    No I have not touched the watermark in any of my installs.
     
  8. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    MS said that "its telemetry results" showed that users don't make much use of start menu, thus... MS fI_Icks it up. This is another way of MS pushing the user to accept its plans.
    I'm not a Windows Explorer fan nor user, nor of the start menu. I prefer a file manager such as "total commander" or others like it. But, still I want to have a choice in how my desktop looks, feels & works.

    Did anyone try ClassicShell on Windows 10?
    It should work flawlessly according to Ivo.
     
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  9. TimmyP

    TimmyP MDL Novice

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    OMG thank you so ****ing much.
     
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  11. jasjeet

    jasjeet MDL Novice

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    Same problem, installed startisback, now works flawlessly just like 7.
     
  12. pf100

    pf100 MDL Addicted

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    Same here. Startisback works great. I almost forgot what the original menu looks like since I never have to use it for anything anymore.
     
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  13. Bubble-be

    Bubble-be MDL Novice

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    I thought I was going crazy, because I didn't read anything about it.

    A shame you have to rely on 3rd party stuff to get it fixed, I'm trying classicshell (only start menu) now.
     
  14. AsadAhmad

    AsadAhmad MDL Novice

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    Some pricks are suggesting to delete dmwappushservice. Have you deleted it instead of disabling it?! [which breaks the search!!]

    1. Make sure tiledatamodelsvc and search indexer are running!
    2. Make sure "All Application Packages" have access to ure "AppData" folder.
    3. Start PowerShell as Administrator.
    4. From Task Manager End Tasks Explorer.exe, SearchUI.exe & ShellExperianceHost.exe.
    [Explorer needs to be killed first so that it does not respawn the processes]
    5.RUN Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
    [you can try fixing shellexperiancehost and cortana individually]
    6. Once the process is completed CTRL+ALT+DEL & reboot!

    your search is now fixed!
     
  15. Bubble-be

    Bubble-be MDL Novice

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    Step 5 did it for me. :clap:
     
  16. hanzzon2

    hanzzon2 MDL Member

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    If you go to: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
    There you will find a file called "Search.lnk"
    Launching this here from explorer will give you the same "flyin" search menu that Windows 8.1 has.
    It does not have categories so it for example finds putty.exe from the downloads folder in the main window, 400 mouse clicks not required to drill down to it!
    It also manages to find a shortcut on the modern start menu, like you would get if you choose to "pin to start" an exe file that is not in an indexed location.
    (yea, really, the start menu is unable to find even this one!)
    It however is unable to find a shortcut to anything that is located on your desktop.

    Windows search: what a comprehensible fantastic piece of software!
     
  17. oliverjia

    oliverjia MDL Addicted

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    This is a shame for Microsoft. Come on now, Win10 has been released for more than 2 months, and you still can't get the search menu to work properly?
    Shame on those who work on Windows 10, for producing such a garbage.
     
  18. dummekuehe

    dummekuehe MDL Senior Member

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    if you don't care that ms is spying on you then you won't delete the spyservice and won't have problems with start menu search

    MS logic:
    start menu search is for idiots. if you are an idiot you won't have problems